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just transphering the latter part of this conversation from the panopticon to here, as this is more the place for this sort of debate http://tardis.wikia.com/index.php?title=Forum:The_Unspecified_Cyberman_Debate&t=20111221075156. [[User:Imamadmad|Imamadmad]] <sup>[[User talk:Imamadmad|talk to me]]</sup> 11:53, December 21, 2011 (UTC)
:Conversation moved back to Panopticon.  Above user given bad advice to move convo here.  Return to [[Forum:The Unspecified Cyberman Debate]], please.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}03:41: Mon&nbsp;26 Dec 2011&nbsp;</span>