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== Opening post ==
Simple thread this: I think it is a sensible and wise decision to split all of [[the Doctor's sonic screwdriver]] into separate pages for each model.

After asking @[[User:Cousin Ettolrhc|Cousin Ettolrhc]] for permission to create this opening post, I'd first like to say that @[[User:MrThermomanPreacher|MrThermomanPreacher]] has created pages for the sonics belonging to the first thirteen Doctors, and I've done [[User:Epsilon the Eternal/Fourteenth Doctor's sonic screwdriver|the fourteenth's]]; so we've got the rough bases of the pages ready to go.

Otherwise, the only thing I feel there is to discuss is the page names; while I am not sure if using the ''first'' owner or ''primary'' owner of a sonic should have the page named after them, I feel, not unlike [[Susan's TARDIS bedroom]], we should only have the page named after one Doctor; so [[Eleventh Doctor's sonic screwdriver]] with [[Twelfth Doctor's sonic screwdriver]] as a redirect, over [[Eleventh and Twelfth Doctors' sonic screwdriver]], as we don't put every user of Susan's bedroom in the page name. For example, [[Third, Fourth, and Fifth Doctors' sonic screwdriver]] is a clunky page name. And that's not getting into other users of the screwdrivers, like [[Nardole]] in ''[[The Pilot (TV story)|The Pilot]]''.

Another benefit is [[/Appearances]] and [[/Gallery]] subpages which can be model specific, rather than grouping over a dozen different designs on a single subpage. As you can see on [[User:Epsilon the Eternal/Fourteenth Doctor's sonic screwdriver/Gallery]], this is an example of such a gallery subpage.

I know this is a short opening post but I feel it is likely uncontroversial and there isn't much to really "hash out" in terms of changing policy or such, just a (hopefully) simple split. {{User:Epsilon the Eternal/signature}} 20:45, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

== Discussion ==
I completely and unequivocally agree with this (although I may need to check what unequivocally means, as I've forgotten). I believe that we should retain the current page as an overview, and name the screwdrivers by their first user, as who the "primary" user is with Three, Four and Five's is somewhat ambiguous. [[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: serif; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|<span title="Talk to me">📢</span>]]  20:49, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

: I generally agree, the naming I have no strong opinions on, but a split is definitely needed. [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:50, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

:: I agree with the split as I have for a long time wanted to do so myself, but wouldn’t know where to start because there is so much to cover, even for a single version of the screwdriver. I also agree with Aquanafrahudy that if we do name a single owner, we should go with the first owner as per the example mentioned. We should also do redirects. [[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:58, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

::: My only concern with ''first'' user is in the case of the Second Doctor's penlight sonic, as some - but not all - EU sources have retroactively stated that the First Doctor also used it. Perhaps we should do first ''real world'' user, not in-universe chronological? {{User:Epsilon the Eternal/signature}} 21:00, 12 September 2023 (UTC)

:::: How many stories does that First Doctor have it in? As far as I know, only in ''[[Venusian Lullaby (novel)|Venusian Lullaby]]''. [[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:02, 12 September 2023 (UTC)