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Is it me or on the trailer for the end of time, was Capt. Jack Harkness standing behind Sylvia Noble?
Is it me or on the trailer for the end of time, was Capt. Jack Harkness standing behind Sylvia Noble?
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Jack is a fixed point in time.  It is possible that he is the Face of Boe.  It is also feasible that, as the face of Boe, he may have determined a means to "die", while still remaining a fact.  Becoming an eternal (specifically a Guardian of Time) would qualify as this.  CB
Jack is a fixed point in time.  It is possible that he is the Face of Boe.  It is also feasible that, as the face of Boe, he may have determined a means to "die", while still remaining a fact.  Becoming an eternal (specifically a Guardian of Time) would qualify as this.  CB
It would be cool if Jack was The Face of Boe and the White Guardian and it would make sense because we don't now anything about there back stories. [[User:Kingfrogger666|Kingfrogger666]] 09:19, December 16, 2009 (UTC)
It's been confirmed that Jack is the Face of Boe. [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 19:27, December 17, 2009 (UTC)
Where does it say, Most people think that refernce for the Last of the Time Lords does not really mean anything. But I still think it does. --Catkind121 11:56, December 21, 2009 (UTC)
Getting back to the original topic, in a better version of the scene it looked moreso like jack, but a promo pic i came across has another person behind sylvia [[User:Geffe71|Geffe71]] 04:55, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
I believe that it is Sean Temple behind Slyvia, and they're looking over at Donna (who looks at them with a shocked/fearful expression). I'm basing that of the timeframe of picture from the episode I have seen: one the man behind Slyvia and they're in the kitchen looking at someone; then Donna at the other end of the kitchen looking at someone in their direction, another photo shows Donna in the kitchen looking at the man who is seen standing behind Slyvia in the kitchen.
Together it looks like, Donna looking at Slyvia and the man standing behind her with a fearful expression, them looking back at her, and then Donna putting her hand on her head, screaming, and the camera zooming in on her eyes (I saw a summary of the next time preview slowed down) really quickly. Sounds interesting. Wi wonder who the man if, and why him and Sylvia are looking at Donna as she looks fearful?
In other news, I saw pictures of Jack filming in the street with what appears to be two very strange people: one completely white from head to toe, the other completely red from head to toe. As in, completely white and red. No eyes, nothing. In the same street Jack was seen filming in, there were a bunch of monks and females dressed in some unusual clothing. They may be members of the Shadow Proclomation - but I don't know what they're all doing on Earth, espcailly Jack. [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 11:31, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
i heard about the monks and the red an white guys a while ago, but i thought i heard it had to do with the next series, guess not
The white guy looks like the Watcher. As in, 100% looks like him.
The man is Sean Temple and he is Donna's fiance. Donna has obviously been avoiding him for some reason, like her old self. The part where she gives wilf a book for christmas entitled Fighting the Future by Joshua Naismith, Donna has a funny turn when she sees this.[[User:Saxon 3|Saxon 3]] 18:20, December 22, 2009 (UTC)
I'm hoping she dies because of that dramatic feel it will give, and this seems to be the case judging by everything I'm seeing and hearing. I mean, she remembers, she burns up and dies. And she is so very on the verge of remembering after seeing her "funny turn". [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 19:08, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

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Is it me or on the trailer for the end of time, was Capt. Jack Harkness standing behind Sylvia Noble?


until there is a clearer version, i would say it is him or someone from a military outfit 72.221.71.209 00:22, October 24, 2009 (UTC)


Chiroptera Rex 18:23, November 18, 2009 (UTC) Sylvia Noble isn't in the trailer for End of Time.

She is, in the comic con one. not the new 1 though. Saxon 3 18:27, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Chiroptera Rex 00:34, November 27, 2009 (UTC) I hadn't seen that version, thanks for letting me know - just checked it out, minor changes mostly, wonder why they dropped that clip though.

Harkness is in the End of Time special206.209.103.67 20:23, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

I think Jack may wind up becoming the White Guardian, with the Face of Boe as an intermediate step; after all, Boe died once he got tired of living, but if he is Jack, then he's a fixed point. Maybe in dying he became an Eternal and considering how much the Doctor inspired him, a Guardian of Time would seem appropriate. This post was previously removed for an unexplained reason and I have heard people come down on other "so and so is really so and so" posts; however I have noticed how RTD likes to hide story elements within other elements:

1. Bad Wolf was hidden in Rose 2. The Dalek Invasion was hidden in the Cybermen Invasion 3. The Master was hidden in Professory Yana 4. The Doctor's intervention was hidden in Pompeii's fixed point in time 5. The Doctor was hidden in Donna 6. The saviour who allowed for the DoctorDonna to be realized was Dalek Caan

Jack is a fixed point in time. It is possible that he is the Face of Boe. It is also feasible that, as the face of Boe, he may have determined a means to "die", while still remaining a fact. Becoming an eternal (specifically a Guardian of Time) would qualify as this. CB

It would be cool if Jack was The Face of Boe and the White Guardian and it would make sense because we don't now anything about there back stories. Kingfrogger666 09:19, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

It's been confirmed that Jack is the Face of Boe. Delton Menace 19:27, December 17, 2009 (UTC)

Where does it say, Most people think that refernce for the Last of the Time Lords does not really mean anything. But I still think it does. --Catkind121 11:56, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Getting back to the original topic, in a better version of the scene it looked moreso like jack, but a promo pic i came across has another person behind sylvia Geffe71 04:55, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

I believe that it is Sean Temple behind Slyvia, and they're looking over at Donna (who looks at them with a shocked/fearful expression). I'm basing that of the timeframe of picture from the episode I have seen: one the man behind Slyvia and they're in the kitchen looking at someone; then Donna at the other end of the kitchen looking at someone in their direction, another photo shows Donna in the kitchen looking at the man who is seen standing behind Slyvia in the kitchen.

Together it looks like, Donna looking at Slyvia and the man standing behind her with a fearful expression, them looking back at her, and then Donna putting her hand on her head, screaming, and the camera zooming in on her eyes (I saw a summary of the next time preview slowed down) really quickly. Sounds interesting. Wi wonder who the man if, and why him and Sylvia are looking at Donna as she looks fearful?

In other news, I saw pictures of Jack filming in the street with what appears to be two very strange people: one completely white from head to toe, the other completely red from head to toe. As in, completely white and red. No eyes, nothing. In the same street Jack was seen filming in, there were a bunch of monks and females dressed in some unusual clothing. They may be members of the Shadow Proclomation - but I don't know what they're all doing on Earth, espcailly Jack. Delton Menace 11:31, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

i heard about the monks and the red an white guys a while ago, but i thought i heard it had to do with the next series, guess not

The white guy looks like the Watcher. As in, 100% looks like him.

The man is Sean Temple and he is Donna's fiance. Donna has obviously been avoiding him for some reason, like her old self. The part where she gives wilf a book for christmas entitled Fighting the Future by Joshua Naismith, Donna has a funny turn when she sees this.Saxon 3 18:20, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

I'm hoping she dies because of that dramatic feel it will give, and this seems to be the case judging by everything I'm seeing and hearing. I mean, she remembers, she burns up and dies. And she is so very on the verge of remembering after seeing her "funny turn". Delton Menace 19:08, December 22, 2009 (UTC)