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face it, captain Jack is the face of boe. Canon Fact. The Face is just a head (the head of boe?) Jack has a body. dorium loses head but survives. could this be because he is immortal? wold that head keep growing? and turn brown/pink? please comment. Professer billybob, over and out. 86.25.189.193^{talk to me} 16:03, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

Jack is most likely the Face of Boe, but he is almost certainly not Dorium. Apart from the fact that Dorium is quite obviously a bit bluer than either Jack or Boe, the only thing that he really has in common with Boe is that he is a disembodied head. The Face of Boe is a giant telepathic head in a huge tank with weird tendrils and stuff coming out. Dorium is just a blue head in a box. There isn't really any reason to believe that Dorium is immortal. All of the Monk's headless victims somehow survive. That's why they had all those little boxes to put rich people's heads in, and that's where all those living skulls came from. Besides, if Dorium did have Jack like immortality, he would have healed. His body would probably have just grown a new head, though his head may have grown a new body. In Last of the Time Lords, it was implied that Jack became the Face of Boe simply by aging over billions and billions of years. It's kind of similar to that myth they discussed in Miracle Day, where somebody asked the Gods for immortality but forgot to ask for eternal youth, and ended up becoming a cicada.Icecreamdif ^{talk to me} 19:16, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

My guess is that Rose made him immortal because he had to become the Face of Boe, so when he reaches the part of the timeline where he meets Rose he undergoes a transformation into Boe. 94.72.235.31^{talk to me} 19:54, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

No, Rose made him immortal because he was her friend, and she was sad that he was dead. She couldn't control her powers, so when she brought him back to life, she made him a fixed point. The scene in Last of the Time Lords that suggests that Jack will become the Face of Boe clearly implied that it was just aging. Jack asked the Doctor what would happen if he kept aging forever, the Doctor said he didn't know, and then Jack mentioned that the Face of Boe was a childhood nickname of his. That dialogue was clearly suggesting that Jack would just age into being the Face.Icecreamdif ^{talk to me} 20:05, April 17, 2012 (UTC)

There could easily be two reasons to bring him back, Rose met this face earlier in the series and knew she had to ensure it stayed that way. Also, it could easily be a paradox, she immortalised him because she had to in order to create the face. 77.86.60.12^{talk to me} 16:17, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

Time can be rewritten, and the events of The End of the World would have been pretty much the same if the face wasn't present anyway. We already have a simple reason for Rose making Jack immortal, so there's no reason to make it more complicated than it needs to be. Icecreamdif ^{talk to me} 19:24, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

In the End of the World it says that the Face of Boe invited them there so the events of End of the World wouldn't happen Caged1^{talk to me} 20:45, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

Earth was a hugely influential planet in its day, and played an important role in galactic history. If the Face of Boe hadn't funded that end of the world party, somebody else would have.Icecreamdif ^{talk to me} 21:14, April 18, 2012 (UTC)