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Back in ''World War III'', the Ninth Doctor said that Harriet Jones would go on to serve three (?) terms as PM, starting in 2006. In ''The Christmas Invasion'', the Tenth Doctor deposed her the next year, thereby altering history. Okay....but in order for Harriet to have served for those three terms mentioned earlier, she would have to have survived the Sycorax attack, which she could not have done had the Doctor not already been there to help everyone. The Torchwood Institute already existed by the time of this story, so Harriet would have always utilised them to destroy the Sycorax. So how could Harriet have served for three terms? [[Special:Contributions/82.2.136.93|82.2.136.93]]<sup>[[User talk:82.2.136.93#top|talk to me]]</sup> 16:55, May 18, 2012 (UTC) | Back in ''World War III'', the Ninth Doctor said that Harriet Jones would go on to serve three (?) terms as PM, starting in 2006. In ''The Christmas Invasion'', the Tenth Doctor deposed her the next year, thereby altering history. Okay....but in order for Harriet to have served for those three terms mentioned earlier, she would have to have survived the Sycorax attack, which she could not have done had the Doctor not already been there to help everyone. The Torchwood Institute already existed by the time of this story, so Harriet would have always utilised them to destroy the Sycorax. So how could Harriet have served for three terms? [[Special:Contributions/82.2.136.93|82.2.136.93]]<sup>[[User talk:82.2.136.93#top|talk to me]]</sup> 16:55, May 18, 2012 (UTC) | ||
Wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey.... or, as the eminent Ponsonby Britt once opined "Eeeny meeny, chili beany, the spirits are about to speak." The Doctor avoids monkeying with fixed points in time and crossing his own personal timeline except for cheap tricks, lest something disastrous happens. However, he didn't sense a fixed point in time, so that was ok. His lack of certainty would indicate that either he was unfamiliar with the situation, indicating he hadn't been anywhere near before, which meant he wouldn't be crossing his own timeline or it was a point of time in flux, what the Eleventh Doctor would call "an opportunity." Through some marvelous Time Lord-y ability that is incomprehensible to the minds of those beings who have not evolved over billions of year to deal with the Time Vortex (i.e., script-writier's handwaving) the Doctor's memory of what he read was likewise in flux until they had saved the earth, whereupon it settled down into Jones being Prime Minister for three terms. However, it was still not a fixed point in time, so he could monkey with it. | |||
This would suggest that the Sycoraxic invasion was caused by other monkeying... perhaps drift, perhaps the Master showing up, perhaps something off the map that will never show up. Either that or, had the Doctor not been around for the Sycorax, Torchwood would have simply blown them out of the sky anyway.[[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] <sup>[[User talk:Boblipton|talk to me]]</sup> 21:31, May 18, 2012 (UTC) |
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Back in World War III, the Ninth Doctor said that Harriet Jones would go on to serve three (?) terms as PM, starting in 2006. In The Christmas Invasion, the Tenth Doctor deposed her the next year, thereby altering history. Okay....but in order for Harriet to have served for those three terms mentioned earlier, she would have to have survived the Sycorax attack, which she could not have done had the Doctor not already been there to help everyone. The Torchwood Institute already existed by the time of this story, so Harriet would have always utilised them to destroy the Sycorax. So how could Harriet have served for three terms? 82.2.136.93talk to me 16:55, May 18, 2012 (UTC)
Wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey.... or, as the eminent Ponsonby Britt once opined "Eeeny meeny, chili beany, the spirits are about to speak." The Doctor avoids monkeying with fixed points in time and crossing his own personal timeline except for cheap tricks, lest something disastrous happens. However, he didn't sense a fixed point in time, so that was ok. His lack of certainty would indicate that either he was unfamiliar with the situation, indicating he hadn't been anywhere near before, which meant he wouldn't be crossing his own timeline or it was a point of time in flux, what the Eleventh Doctor would call "an opportunity." Through some marvelous Time Lord-y ability that is incomprehensible to the minds of those beings who have not evolved over billions of year to deal with the Time Vortex (i.e., script-writier's handwaving) the Doctor's memory of what he read was likewise in flux until they had saved the earth, whereupon it settled down into Jones being Prime Minister for three terms. However, it was still not a fixed point in time, so he could monkey with it.
This would suggest that the Sycoraxic invasion was caused by other monkeying... perhaps drift, perhaps the Master showing up, perhaps something off the map that will never show up. Either that or, had the Doctor not been around for the Sycorax, Torchwood would have simply blown them out of the sky anyway.Boblipton talk to me 21:31, May 18, 2012 (UTC)