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How should we handle the usage of "Doctor Who" in titles? We seem to have a fairly inconsistent use of the prefix in titles.  
How should we handle the usage of "Doctor Who" in titles? We seem to have a fairly inconsistent use of the prefix in titles.  


With video games we've got a fairly inconsistent usage. ''[[Doctor Who: The Adventure Games]]'' is prefixed yet the individual games aren't. Then with single releases some like ''[[Destiny of the Doctors]]'' aren't prefix.
With video games we've got a fairly inconsistent usage. ''[[* [[Doctor Who: The Adventure Games]]'' is prefixed yet the individual games aren't. Then with single releases some like ''[[Destiny of the Doctors]]'' aren't prefix.]]


Most of the [[:Category:Doctor Who reference books|Doctor Who reference books]] are titled this way such as; ''[[Doctor Who: The Sixties]]'', though there are a few exceptions ''[[The Universal Databank]]'', ''[[Travel Without the TARDIS]]'', ''[[The Key to Time]]''.
Most of the [[:Category:Doctor Who reference books|Doctor Who reference books]] are titled this way such as; ''[[* [[Doctor Who: The Sixties]]'', though there are a few exceptions ''[[The Universal Databank]]'', ''[[Travel Without the TARDIS]]'', ''[[The Key to Time]]''.]]


I propose we just drop the ''Doctor Who'' prefix for everything. As far as I can see the rationale appears to be that it's on the cover (at least that holds true enough for the books), but if that were the case the majority of merchandise and texts we have listed would need to be prefixed also. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 15:44, May 31, 2012 (UTC)
I propose we just drop the ''Doctor Who'' prefix for everything. As far as I can see the rationale appears to be that it's on the cover (at least that holds true enough for the books), but if that were the case the majority of merchandise and texts we have listed would need to be prefixed also. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 15:44, May 31, 2012 (UTC)
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::I have been assuming that when "Doctor Who"  begins at the beginning of a title, it is because the publisher/producer/distributor/boyfriend of the owner titled it that way, like the way Target used to change the names of the stories for the novelizations to "Doctor Who and...."
::I have been assuming that when "Doctor Who"  begins at the beginning of a title, it is because the publisher/producer/distributor/boyfriend of the owner titled it that way, like the way Target used to change the names of the stories for the novelizations to "Doctor Who and...."


:: That being the case, the name of the whatsit is (e.g.) ''Doctor Who: the Sixties''. It should be noted up front and on top.  After that it may be convenient to refer to it as ''The Sixties'', but that's a nonce or nick name, and no more appropriate than using an old, annoying nickname at the front of your page. Show a little respect. [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] <sup>[[User talk:Boblipton|talk to me]]</sup> 16:47, May 31, 2012 (UTC)
:: That being the case, the name of the whatsit is (e.g.) ''* [[Doctor Who: the Sixties''. It should be noted up front and on top.  After that it may be convenient to refer to it as ''The Sixties'', but that's a nonce or nick name, and no more appropriate than using an old, annoying nickname at the front of your page. Show a little respect. [[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] <sup>[[User talk:Boblipton|talk to me]]</sup> 16:47, May 31, 2012 (UTC)]]


:::I agree with [[user:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]].  Drop the prepending ''Doctor Who''.  It should be taken as read on a DW wiki, unless of course it actually disambiguates in some way (as it does with Target novelisations).  This isn't an issue of "respect", Bob, but organisational efficiency.  If this were a general library catalogue, I'd agree that the prepending DW would be necessary.  But here it gets in the way of auto-suggest, alphabetisation in categories, and various other automated processes.  When we speak of "The Sixties" on this wiki, ''of course'' we mean the reference book.  The ''Doctor Who'' bit is unhelpful and redundant.  Here's the full list of everything affected by this issue:
:::I agree with [[user:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]].  Drop the prepending ''Doctor Who''.  It should be taken as read on a DW wiki, unless of course it actually disambiguates in some way (as it does with Target novelisations).  This isn't an issue of "respect", Bob, but organisational efficiency.  If this were a general library catalogue, I'd agree that the prepending DW would be necessary.  But here it gets in the way of auto-suggest, alphabetisation in categories, and various other automated processes.  When we speak of "The Sixties" on this wiki, ''of course'' we mean the reference book.  The ''Doctor Who'' bit is unhelpful and redundant.  Here's the full list of everything affected by this issue:
Doctor Who: 100 Scariest Monsters
* [[Doctor Who: 100 Scariest Monsters]]
Doctor Who: 25 Glorious Years
* [[Doctor Who: 25 Glorious Years]]
Doctor Who: 3D Mask Activity Book
* [[Doctor Who: 3D Mask Activity Book]]
Doctor Who: 3D Monster Masks
* [[Doctor Who: 3D Monster Masks]]
Doctor Who: A Book of Monsters
* [[Doctor Who: A Book of Monsters]]
Doctor Who: A Celebration
* [[Doctor Who: A Celebration]]
Doctor Who: A New Dimension
* [[Doctor Who: A New Dimension]]
Doctor Who: A New Dimension (CON episode)
* [[Doctor Who: A New Dimension (CON episode)]]
Doctor Who: A Tale of Two Time Lords Sticker Guide
* [[Doctor Who: A Tale of Two Time Lords Sticker Guide]]
Doctor Who: Activity Book
* [[Doctor Who: Activity Book]]
Doctor Who: Adventures in Time and Space
* [[Doctor Who: Adventures in Time and Space]]
Doctor Who: Adventures in Time and Space (RPG)
* [[Doctor Who: Adventures in Time and Space (RPG)]]
Doctor Who: Alien Armies
* [[Doctor Who: Alien Armies]]
Doctor Who: Alien Armies (trading cards)
* [[Doctor Who: Alien Armies (trading cards)]]
Doctor Who: Alien Armies Activity Book
* [[Doctor Who: Alien Armies Activity Book]]
Doctor Who: Aliens and Enemies
* [[Doctor Who: Aliens and Enemies]]
Doctor Who: Battle Badges Activity Book
* [[Doctor Who: Battle Badges Activity Book]]
Doctor Who: Battles in Time
* [[Doctor Who: Battles in Time]]
Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Adventurer The Sarah Jane Adventures)
* [[Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Adventurer The Sarah Jane Adventures)]]
Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Annihilator)
* [[Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Annihilator)]]
Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Comic Strip)
* [[Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Comic Strip)]]
Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Devastator)
* [[Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Devastator)]]
Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Exterminator)
* [[Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Exterminator)]]
Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Invader)
* [[Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Invader)]]
Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Magazine)
* [[Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Magazine)]]
Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Trading Cards)
* [[Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Trading Cards)]]
Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Ultimate Monsters)
* [[Doctor Who: Battles in Time (Ultimate Monsters)]]
Doctor Who: Battles in Time (comic strip)
* [[Doctor Who: Battles in Time (comic strip)]]
Doctor Who: Battles in Time (magazine)
* [[Doctor Who: Battles in Time (magazine)]]
Doctor Who: Battles in Time (trading cards)
* [[Doctor Who: Battles in Time (trading cards)]]
Doctor Who: Battles in Time Dalek Wars
* [[Doctor Who: Battles in Time Dalek Wars]]
Doctor Who: Battles in Time Daleks vs Cybermen Special
* [[Doctor Who: Battles in Time Daleks vs Cybermen Special]]
Doctor Who: Battles in Time comic stories
* [[Doctor Who: Battles in Time comic stories]]
Doctor Who: Brain Teasers and Mind Benders
* [[Doctor Who: Brain Teasers and Mind Benders]]
Doctor Who: Children in Time Sticker Poster Book
* [[Doctor Who: Children in Time Sticker Poster Book]]
Doctor Who: Classified! A Confidential 3-D Dossier
* [[Doctor Who: Classified! A Confidential 3-D Dossier]]
Doctor Who: Companions and Allies
* [[Doctor Who: Companions and Allies]]
Doctor Who: Creatures and Demons
* [[Doctor Who: Creatures and Demons]]
Doctor Who: Cybermen
* [[Doctor Who: Cybermen]]
Doctor Who: Dalek Omnibus
* [[Doctor Who: Dalek Omnibus]]
Doctor Who: Dalek Pop-up Model Kit
* [[Doctor Who: Dalek Pop-up Model Kit]]
Doctor Who: David Tennant and the Regeneration Years 2005-2010
* [[Doctor Who: David Tennant and the Regeneration Years 2005-2010]]
Doctor Who: Destiny of the Doctors
* [[Doctor Who: Destiny of the Doctors]]
Doctor Who: Doctor's Companion Activity Book
* [[Doctor Who: Doctor's Companion Activity Book]]
Doctor Who: Eleventh Doctor Regeneration Sticker Guide
* [[Doctor Who: Eleventh Doctor Regeneration Sticker Guide]]
Doctor Who: Evacuation Earth
* [[Doctor Who: Evacuation Earth]]
Doctor Who: Glow in the Dark Monster Sticker Guide
* [[Doctor Who: Glow in the Dark Monster Sticker Guide]]
Doctor Who: Guide to Alien Armies
* [[Doctor Who: Guide to Alien Armies]]
Doctor Who: Here Come the Monsters
* [[Doctor Who: Here Come the Monsters]]
Doctor Who: Intergalactic Survival Guide
* [[Doctor Who: Intergalactic Survival Guide]]
Doctor Who: Intergalactic Survival Guide (2)
* [[Doctor Who: Intergalactic Survival Guide (2)]]
Doctor Who: It's Bigger on the Inside!
* [[Doctor Who: It's Bigger on the Inside!]]
Doctor Who: Mini-Monster Sticker Book
* [[Doctor Who: Mini-Monster Sticker Book]]
Doctor Who: Mini Sticker Book
* [[Doctor Who: Mini Sticker Book]]
Doctor Who: Model-Making Kit
* [[Doctor Who: Model-Making Kit]]
Doctor Who: Monster Invasion
* [[Doctor Who: Monster Invasion]]
Doctor Who: Monster Invasion (magazine)
* [[Doctor Who: Monster Invasion (magazine)]]
Doctor Who: Monster Invasion (trading cards)
* [[Doctor Who: Monster Invasion (trading cards)]]
Doctor Who: Monsters and Villains
* [[Doctor Who: Monsters and Villains]]
Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack
* [[Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack]]
Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack: A Christmas Carol
* [[Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack: A Christmas Carol]]
Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack: Series 3
* [[Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack: Series 3]]
Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack: Series 4
* [[Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack: Series 4]]
Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack: Series 4- The Specials
* [[Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack: Series 4- The Specials]]
Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack: Series 4 - The Specials
* [[Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack: Series 4 - The Specials]]
Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack: Series 5
* [[Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack: Series 5]]
Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack: Series 6
* [[Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack: Series 6]]
Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack: The Specials
* [[Doctor Who: Original Television Soundtrack: The Specials]]
Doctor Who: Origins
* [[Doctor Who: Origins]]
Doctor Who: Postcards from Time and Space
* [[Doctor Who: Postcards from Time and Space]]
Doctor Who: Puzzle Book
* [[Doctor Who: Puzzle Book]]
Doctor Who: Quiz Book
* [[Doctor Who: Quiz Book]]
Doctor Who: Quiz Book 2
* [[Doctor Who: Quiz Book 2]]
Doctor Who: Quiz Book 3
* [[Doctor Who: Quiz Book 3]]
Doctor Who: Quiz Book 4
* [[Doctor Who: Quiz Book 4]]
Doctor Who: Regeneration
* [[Doctor Who: Regeneration]]
Doctor Who: Regeneration Sticker Guide
* [[Doctor Who: Regeneration Sticker Guide]]
Doctor Who: Return to Earth
* [[Doctor Who: Return to Earth]]
Doctor Who: Rewind
* [[Doctor Who: Rewind]]
Doctor Who: Space Travels
* [[Doctor Who: Space Travels]]
Doctor Who: Starships and Spacestations
* [[Doctor Who: Starships and Spacestations]]
Doctor Who: Sticker Guide
* [[Doctor Who: Sticker Guide]]
Doctor Who: TARDIS Manual
* [[Doctor Who: TARDIS Manual]]
Doctor Who: The Adventure Games
* [[Doctor Who: The Adventure Games]]
Doctor Who: The Beginning
* [[Doctor Who: The Beginning]]
Doctor Who: The Book of Lists
* [[Doctor Who: The Book of Lists]]
Doctor Who: The Companions
* [[Doctor Who: The Companions]]
Doctor Who: The Dalek Handbook
* [[Doctor Who: The Dalek Handbook]]
Doctor Who: The Early Years
* [[Doctor Who: The Early Years]]
Doctor Who: The Eighties
* [[Doctor Who: The Eighties]]
Doctor Who: The Eleventh Doctor: Matt Smith
* [[Doctor Who: The Eleventh Doctor: Matt Smith]]
Doctor Who: The Encyclopedia
* [[Doctor Who: The Encyclopedia]]
Doctor Who: The Eternity Clock
* [[Doctor Who: The Eternity Clock]]
Doctor Who: The Eternity Clock (video game)
* [[Doctor Who: The Eternity Clock (video game)]]
Doctor Who: The First Adventure
* [[Doctor Who: The First Adventure]]
Doctor Who: The Inside Story
* [[Doctor Who: The Inside Story]]
Doctor Who: The Last Time Lord
* [[Doctor Who: The Last Time Lord]]
Doctor Who: The Legend
* [[Doctor Who: The Legend]]
Doctor Who: The Legend Continues
* [[Doctor Who: The Legend Continues]]
Doctor Who: The Lost TV Episodes - Collection One
* [[Doctor Who: The Lost TV Episodes - Collection One]]
Doctor Who: The Lost TV Episodes - Collection Two
* [[Doctor Who: The Lost TV Episodes - Collection Two]]
Doctor Who: The Making of a Television Series
* [[Doctor Who: The Making of a Television Series]]
Doctor Who: The Monsters
* [[Doctor Who: The Monsters]]
Doctor Who: The Monsters Are Coming!
* [[Doctor Who: The Monsters Are Coming!]]
Doctor Who: The Movie
* [[Doctor Who: The Movie]]
Doctor Who: The Script of the Film
* [[Doctor Who: The Script of the Film]]
Doctor Who: The Scripts
* [[Doctor Who: The Scripts]]
Doctor Who: The Scripts: Tom Baker 1974/5
* [[Doctor Who: The Scripts: Tom Baker 1974/5]]
Doctor Who: The Seventies
* [[Doctor Who: The Seventies]]
Doctor Who: The Shooting Scripts
* [[Doctor Who: The Shooting Scripts]]
Doctor Who: The Sixties
* [[Doctor Who: The Sixties]]
Doctor Who: The TARDIS Handbook
* [[Doctor Who: The TARDIS Handbook]]
Doctor Who: The TARDIS Inside Out
* [[Doctor Who: The TARDIS Inside Out]]
Doctor Who: The Time Traveller's Almanac
* [[Doctor Who: The Time Traveller's Almanac]]
Doctor Who: The Timelord
* [[Doctor Who: The Timelord]]
Doctor Who: The Ultimate Adventure
* [[Doctor Who: The Ultimate Adventure]]
Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide
* [[Doctor Who: The Ultimate Guide]]
Doctor Who: The Ultimate Monster Guide
* [[Doctor Who: The Ultimate Monster Guide]]
Doctor Who: The Unfolding Text
* [[Doctor Who: The Unfolding Text]]
Doctor Who: The Visual Dictionary
* [[Doctor Who: The Visual Dictionary]]
Doctor Who: The Weeping Angels: Stories activities and stickers
* [[Doctor Who: The Weeping Angels: Stories activities and stickers]]
Doctor Who: The Writer's Tale
* [[Doctor Who: The Writer's Tale]]
Doctor Who: The Writer's Tale - The Final Chapter
* [[Doctor Who: The Writer's Tale - The Final Chapter]]
Doctor Who: Timeframe: The Illustrated History
* [[Doctor Who: Timeframe: The Illustrated History]]
Doctor Who: Variations on a Theme
* [[Doctor Who: Variations on a Theme]]
Doctor Who: Void Vision Activity Book
* [[Doctor Who: Void Vision Activity Book]]
Doctor Who: Weeping Angels: Stories activities and stickers
* [[Doctor Who: Weeping Angels: Stories activities and stickers]]
Doctor Who: Where's the Doctor?
* [[Doctor Who: Where's the Doctor?]]
Doctor Who: Worlds in Time
* [[Doctor Who: Worlds in Time]]


With ''that'' many things beginning with ''Doctor Who:'' autosuggest is useless, the titles are immune to {{tlx|TitleSort}}, and, as TD pointed out, there's no particular rhyme or reason to why some things ''don't'' have the prepending ''Doctor Who:''.  If we make the rule "drop the Doctor Who" unless it's absolutely necessary for disambiguation, the system will make much more sense.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">18:37: Fri&nbsp;01 Jun 2012&nbsp;</span>
With ''that'' many things beginning with ''Doctor Who:'' autosuggest is useless, the titles are immune to {{tlx|TitleSort}}, and, as TD pointed out, there's no particular rhyme or reason to why some things ''don't'' have the prepending ''Doctor Who:''.  If we make the rule "drop the Doctor Who" unless it's absolutely necessary for disambiguation, the system will make much more sense.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}&nbsp;<span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">18:37: Fri&nbsp;01 Jun 2012&nbsp;</span>

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How should we handle the usage of "Doctor Who" in titles? We seem to have a fairly inconsistent use of the prefix in titles.

With video games we've got a fairly inconsistent usage. [[* Doctor Who: The Adventure Games is prefixed yet the individual games aren't. Then with single releases some like Destiny of the Doctors aren't prefix.]]

Most of the Doctor Who reference books are titled this way such as; [[* Doctor Who: The Sixties, though there are a few exceptions The Universal Databank, Travel Without the TARDIS, The Key to Time.]]

I propose we just drop the Doctor Who prefix for everything. As far as I can see the rationale appears to be that it's on the cover (at least that holds true enough for the books), but if that were the case the majority of merchandise and texts we have listed would need to be prefixed also. --Tangerineduel / talk 15:44, May 31, 2012 (UTC)


I have been assuming that when "Doctor Who" begins at the beginning of a title, it is because the publisher/producer/distributor/boyfriend of the owner titled it that way, like the way Target used to change the names of the stories for the novelizations to "Doctor Who and...."
That being the case, the name of the whatsit is (e.g.) * [[Doctor Who: the Sixties. It should be noted up front and on top. After that it may be convenient to refer to it as The Sixties, but that's a nonce or nick name, and no more appropriate than using an old, annoying nickname at the front of your page. Show a little respect. Boblipton talk to me 16:47, May 31, 2012 (UTC)]]
I agree with Tangerineduel. Drop the prepending Doctor Who. It should be taken as read on a DW wiki, unless of course it actually disambiguates in some way (as it does with Target novelisations). This isn't an issue of "respect", Bob, but organisational efficiency. If this were a general library catalogue, I'd agree that the prepending DW would be necessary. But here it gets in the way of auto-suggest, alphabetisation in categories, and various other automated processes. When we speak of "The Sixties" on this wiki, of course we mean the reference book. The Doctor Who bit is unhelpful and redundant. Here's the full list of everything affected by this issue:

With that many things beginning with Doctor Who: autosuggest is useless, the titles are immune to {{TitleSort}}, and, as TD pointed out, there's no particular rhyme or reason to why some things don't have the prepending Doctor Who:. If we make the rule "drop the Doctor Who" unless it's absolutely necessary for disambiguation, the system will make much more sense.
czechout<staff />    <span style="">18:37: Fri 01 Jun 2012