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=="Discontinuity, plot holes, errors" section==


Hi, I don't think I've ever really contributed here, but I do read it often - so keep up the great work! Currently the article pages seem to be slightly 'messy'; I'm refering to the way in which under the 'Discontinuity, Plot Holes, Errors' section people write how peoples ideas are wrong - I think that if they are wrong it should be removed, put on the discussion page with the reasons why it's wrong. It's just something which bugs me as it's handled very differently on similar wikis.--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 17:15, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I don't think I've ever really contributed here, but I do read it often - so keep up the great work! Currently the article pages seem to be slightly 'messy'; I'm refering to the way in which under the 'Discontinuity, Plot Holes, Errors' section people write how peoples ideas are wrong - I think that if they are wrong it should be removed, put on the discussion page with the reasons why it's wrong. It's just something which bugs me as it's handled very differently on similar wikis.--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 17:15, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


:The Discontinuity section sort of grew from the classic series where there was defined bits (like boom mics in shot), or jump cuts, or items switching hands, or actual errors. For the new series articles it has become a bit of a dumping ground for people to have their own little forum within the article. For the most part it's easy enough to keep in control, some of the points are valid enough. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 18:17, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
:The Discontinuity section sort of grew from the classic series where there was defined bits (like boom mics in shot), or jump cuts, or items switching hands, or actual errors. For the new series articles it has become a bit of a dumping ground for people to have their own little forum within the article. For the most part it's easy enough to keep in control, some of the points are valid enough. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 18:17, 15 June 2008 (UTC)


::in general, contributors to the Wiki like giving justifying evidence or counter-evidence for their particular theories on canon. (personally, I don't like that.) --[[User:Stardizzy2|Stardizzy2]] 19:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
::in general, contributors to the Wiki like giving justifying evidence or counter-evidence for their particular theories on canon. (personally, I don't like that.) --[[User:Stardizzy2|Stardizzy2]] 19:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)


:Actually, writing about how the ideas are wrong on the main article is important to stop other people (ones who don't look at talk pages) from adding them back in. Whether or not it is a good thing to add them in the first place is another matter entirely. {{:User:Ghelæ/sig}} 14:48, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
:Actually, writing about how the ideas are wrong on the main article is important to stop other people (ones who don't look at talk pages) from adding them back in. Whether or not it is a good thing to add them in the first place is another matter entirely. {{:User:Ghelæ/sig}} 14:48, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
::At the expense of making the wiki look messy and unprofessional... Is that a fair trade? I don't think so. I was for a while an editor at the Star Wars Wiki [http://starwars.wikia.com/] and I think there is no reason why a Doctor Who wiki cannot be even better than this... We have 45 years of history (and counting!) here... If done correctly this could be the envy of all other wikis, IMHHO. &mdash; <b>[[User:Beeurd|<span style="color:black">beeurd</span>]]</b> <sup>[[User talk:Beeurd|talk]]</sup> 20:02, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
:::I agree. The sections on myths/discontinuities/plot holes/errors seem to attract wild speculation, disproven theories, and--for some reason--absolutely terrible writing. [[User:Nightsky|Nightsky]] 20:00, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
::::Seriously, there's gotta be a better way of doing it than what we're currently doing. I think the section should be eliminated, or at the very least separated. "Discontinuity" and "error" are two totally different concepts. I think we invite the section to descend into madness by saying we WANT people to look for errors. I prefer MemoryAlpha's approach of just having a neutral "Background information" section. That allows discussion of points without really BEGGING<script type="text/javascript" src="/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Functions.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript"></script> people to find everything that's "wrong" with the episode. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 06:46, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
: I don't think having this section is begging for people to find holes in the story for the most half. I think for the original series this is fine but the new series with Journy's End as an example the made speculation that goes in the rumours section is then transered into the Discontinuity section which must be stopped by either close monitoring and purging or making a simple behind the scenes section [[User:Dark Lord Xander|Dark Lord Xander]] 06:54, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
==Other sections==
OK -Thanks! With some relevance to this forum, may I draw your attention to [[Template talk:Infobox NewTV|here]].--{{User:KingAragorn/sig}} 23:24, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
==Archivist's notes==
This is one of several threads which expressed dissatisfaction with the discontinuity sections on story page, and eventually led to the creation of the [[forum:discontinuity index|discontinuity index]].  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''18:46:59 Sat&nbsp;'''28 May 2011&nbsp;</span>

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"Discontinuity, plot holes, errors" section[[edit source]]

Hi, I don't think I've ever really contributed here, but I do read it often - so keep up the great work! Currently the article pages seem to be slightly 'messy'; I'm refering to the way in which under the 'Discontinuity, Plot Holes, Errors' section people write how peoples ideas are wrong - I think that if they are wrong it should be removed, put on the discussion page with the reasons why it's wrong. It's just something which bugs me as it's handled very differently on similar wikis.-- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  17:15, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

The Discontinuity section sort of grew from the classic series where there was defined bits (like boom mics in shot), or jump cuts, or items switching hands, or actual errors. For the new series articles it has become a bit of a dumping ground for people to have their own little forum within the article. For the most part it's easy enough to keep in control, some of the points are valid enough. --Tangerineduel 18:17, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
in general, contributors to the Wiki like giving justifying evidence or counter-evidence for their particular theories on canon. (personally, I don't like that.) --Stardizzy2 19:22, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
Actually, writing about how the ideas are wrong on the main article is important to stop other people (ones who don't look at talk pages) from adding them back in. Whether or not it is a good thing to add them in the first place is another matter entirely. ~ Ghelæ -talk-contribs 14:48, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
At the expense of making the wiki look messy and unprofessional... Is that a fair trade? I don't think so. I was for a while an editor at the Star Wars Wiki [1] and I think there is no reason why a Doctor Who wiki cannot be even better than this... We have 45 years of history (and counting!) here... If done correctly this could be the envy of all other wikis, IMHHO. — beeurd talk 20:02, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
I agree. The sections on myths/discontinuities/plot holes/errors seem to attract wild speculation, disproven theories, and--for some reason--absolutely terrible writing. Nightsky 20:00, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Seriously, there's gotta be a better way of doing it than what we're currently doing. I think the section should be eliminated, or at the very least separated. "Discontinuity" and "error" are two totally different concepts. I think we invite the section to descend into madness by saying we WANT people to look for errors. I prefer MemoryAlpha's approach of just having a neutral "Background information" section. That allows discussion of points without really BEGGING<script type="text/javascript" src="/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Functions.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript"></script> people to find everything that's "wrong" with the episode. CzechOut | 06:46, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
I don't think having this section is begging for people to find holes in the story for the most half. I think for the original series this is fine but the new series with Journy's End as an example the made speculation that goes in the rumours section is then transered into the Discontinuity section which must be stopped by either close monitoring and purging or making a simple behind the scenes section Dark Lord Xander 06:54, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Other sections[[edit source]]

OK -Thanks! With some relevance to this forum, may I draw your attention to here.-- KingAragorn  talk  contribs  edits  email  23:24, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Archivist's notes[[edit source]]

This is one of several threads which expressed dissatisfaction with the discontinuity sections on story page, and eventually led to the creation of the discontinuity index.
czechout<staff />   18:46:59 Sat 28 May 2011