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::We might want to consider, however, whether we'll allow them to be readied, so long as some sort of rationale is given. There are valid timeline notes to be made at, say, ''The Greatest Show in the Galaxy''. There, it would be important and fairly uncontroversial to note that, though the story was broadcast last, it must occur earlier in the season, due to the jewellery that Ace receives in the story and displays in an "earlier" story. | ::We might want to consider, however, whether we'll allow them to be readied, so long as some sort of rationale is given. There are valid timeline notes to be made at, say, ''The Greatest Show in the Galaxy''. There, it would be important and fairly uncontroversial to note that, though the story was broadcast last, it must occur earlier in the season, due to the jewellery that Ace receives in the story and displays in an "earlier" story. | ||
::I don't, however, think that the timeline section should be a ''regular'' feature of story pages. It should just be an occasional one, employed only when there's something to say. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | ::I don't, however, think that the timeline section should be a ''regular'' feature of story pages. It should just be an occasional one, employed only when there's something to say. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}15:12: Sun 26 Aug 2012 </span> | ||
::: It is basically leftovers from before the Timelines being a forum section. I think that we should nuke the sections, ''then'' decide from scratch where to readd them. Not sure if a story which features, say, the Tenth Doctor and Donna with no obvious clues other than "this story must be after Donna joins, but before she leaves" is worth noting. | ::: It is basically leftovers from before the Timelines being a forum section. I think that we should nuke the sections, ''then'' decide from scratch where to readd them. Not sure if a story which features, say, the Tenth Doctor and Donna with no obvious clues other than "this story must be after Donna joins, but before she leaves" is worth noting. | ||
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::::In CzechOut's example I think that information can simply go in the "Story notes" section. I don't think we need to burden the story pages with an extra sub-section for these rare instances. Adding the information is fine, but I don't think we need a separate sub-section just for it. Having it on ''some'' pages would indicate to people that it should be on ''all'' pages (we've all seen editors do that). | ::::In CzechOut's example I think that information can simply go in the "Story notes" section. I don't think we need to burden the story pages with an extra sub-section for these rare instances. Adding the information is fine, but I don't think we need a separate sub-section just for it. Having it on ''some'' pages would indicate to people that it should be on ''all'' pages (we've all seen editors do that). | ||
::::Tybort, for those instances where we want to state the connectedness of stories, that information can go in "Continuity". --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 07:12, August 27, 2012 (UTC) | ::::Tybort, for those instances where we want to state the connectedness of stories, that information can go in "Continuity". --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 07:12, August 27, 2012 (UTC) | ||
:If you think it better to completely eliminate the Timeline section, I've no objection. It makes the bot work — and let's face it, this is gonna require a bot — a lot easier. I can just run it on automatic if the idea is that we want to fully exterminate the section. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | :If you think it better to completely eliminate the Timeline section, I've no objection. It makes the bot work — and let's face it, this is gonna require a bot — a lot easier. I can just run it on automatic if the idea is that we want to fully exterminate the section. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}00:07: Tue 28 Aug 2012 </span> | ||
: Fire away. I don't have any real objections. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 00:28, August 28, 2012 (UTC) | :: Fire away. I don't have any real objections. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 00:28, August 28, 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::In a word, yes. Remove them. | |||
:::Should we wait for any amount of time or just go ahead with the removal? --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 14:35, August 28, 2012 (UTC) | |||
Actually I like the timeline sections. I'm sure a lot of people would like to know the general "when" of a story in relation to other stories. I'd rather we not get rid of them. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:14, August 28, 2012 (UTC) | |||
: Okay, I'll expand on my thoughts. I'm in favour of wiping the current Timeline sections, as even if we do re-establish them shortly after, we need a "general when", not a (I assume) ''Doctor Who Reference Guide''-centric approach with an implausibly definitive chronology. Personally, I think even to achieve that, we should still do a clean wipe ''first''. Also, as I said, I'm against "this Donna story must be after Donna joins, but before she leaves", as that really doesn't do anything. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 18:16, August 28, 2012 (UTC) | |||
:: Wipe them. After seeing it on ''[[Pond Life (webcast)|Pond Life]]'', the section needs wiped. It doesn't work on Pond Life, nor any where else for that matter. I'm vote to wipe the entire section of all pages then add links to the [[Forum:Timey-wimey detector]] as [[User:Tangerineduel]] says and also, as [[User:CzechOut]] states, only add the section if there is something to say. [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 00:50, August 29, 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Closing == | |||
It's been a week since this conversation started and, with the exception of [[user:Shambala108|Shambala108]]'s dissension, there's a pretty clear consensus for removal. Therefore, the following is ordered from this discussion: | |||
:#Timeline sections will be wiped as soon as I can write the script for the bot. This may be harder than anticipated since there was no standard format to these sections. | |||
:#Preloads and format guidelines will henceforth omit the Timeline section | |||
:#Timeline sections will '''not''' be reinstated, even on an "as needed" basis. If the story's timeline is actually certain enough and noteworthy enough, then mention of it will be made in the lead or story notes section. | |||
{{user:CzechOut/Sig}} {{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 23:47: Fri 31 Aug 2012</span> | |||