User talk:Memnarc

Welcome to the

• Memnarc •

Welcome to the Tardis!
Layout
Naming conventions
Things with the same name
Links
Images
Allowed sources
Community
Spelling
Admin
Your account

Thanks for your recent edits! I'm Jimbo, your robot wiki representative! We hope you'll keep on editing with us. This is actually a great time to have joined, because we're now fully independent, and working on a host of new features!

We've got a couple of important quirks for a fan written wiki, so let's get them out of the way first.

British English, please

We generally use British English 'round these parts, so if you use another form of English, please be sure you set your spell checker to BrEng, and take a gander at our spelling cheat card.

Spoilers aren't cool

We have a strict definition of "spoiler" that you may find a bit unusual. Basically, a spoiler, to us, is anything that comes from a story which has not been released yet. So, even if you've got some info from a BBC press release or official trailer, it basically can't be referenced here. In other words, you gotta wait until the episode has finished its premiere broadcast to start editing about its contents. Please check the spoiler policy for more details.

Other useful stuff

Aside from those two things, we also have some pages that you should probably read when you get a chance, like:

• the listing of all our help, policy and guideline pages
• our Manual of Style
• our image use policy
• our user page policy

If you're brand new to wiki editing — and we all were, once! —  you probably want to check out these tutorials at Wikipedia, the world's largest wiki:

• How to edit a page
• Editing, policy, conduct, and structure tutorial
• Picture tutorial

Remember that you should always sign your comments on talk and vote pages using four tildes like this:

~ ~ ~ ~

Thanks for becoming a member of the TARDIS crew! If you have any questions, see the Help pages, add a question to one of the Forums or ask an admin.

Redlinks are good!

Hiya :) Thanks for your edits to the Earth mammals pages. I hope you're enjoying playing the Game of Rassilon. However, I must ask you not to deprive articles of their redlinks, as you did at porcupine. Redlinks, like that articles link to the non-existent salt, provide a valuable counter. The more redlinks there are to a word, the higher it goes up the list at Special:WantedPages, and therefore the more likely it is that someone will create hte pages.

If you've been taking out redlinks on other Earth mammals pages, please now put them back. Think of it this way: you'll have gotten double points in the game for making an honest mistake! That's a deal, right?
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 06:33: Fri 23 Sep 2011 

No worries. Easy enough mistake to make. I didn't figure you were being malicious. Yeah, our general rule of thumb around here is that anything that is mentioned in a narrative potentially gets a page. And salt is clearly mentioned in several stories. We just haven't gotten around to writing the page yet.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 06:47: Fri 23 Sep 2011 

Recent category adding

Hi, I've rolled back a series of your edits where you've added categories like Category:United States of America locations to Wall Street, this article (and similarly others you've added "country/region locations" categories) are already within a sub-category of USA locations. See Category:New York City locations, you can see that it's within the USA locations category. So because it's in that category the USA locations category doesn't need to be added to this article. The same goes for European locations.

Usually the most specific category had been added, the more general location categories are an upper level category used to hold the sub-categories or for general subjects that don't fit into the smaller sub-categories. --Tangerineduel / talk 14:14, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

That's fine. Everyone has to learn and making mistakes is part of that.

Though, I would suggest exploring the wiki, categories and all so you can get a handle on the logic of how everything works.

The Manual of Style while long does give explanations of most of the questions that are likely to arise.

If there's any questions feel free to ask, if I can't provide an answer I can point you to a help page, example or another user who can assist you. --Tangerineduel / talk 14:34, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Recent summary adding

I've noticed that you've been adding summaries to some of the short story pages. However, these have been taken verbatim from the Doctor Who Reference Guide, which is Plagiarism according to this wiki's rules. Please undo at your earliest convenience. Doug86 14:01, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Pic tips

Hey, great job on most of your pic uploads today! Thanks for taking the time to capture some relatively obscure characters. They were all nicely licensed and well within our size limits.

I did have to delete a few, though, because they were longer than they were wide, which is especially problematic on pages where there's not likely to be much text. Stick to pictures that approach widescreen (16:9) dimensions. (See T:ICC for more.) This means you sometimes do have to crop things.

Note, also, that minor characters don't necessarily have to appear in a one-shot. Two-shots are acceptable, especially when the other person in the frame is well known. For instance, the vidographer at Donna's wedding (Rodri, is it?) is, I think, only in two-shots with the Tenth Doctor. Since we know who the Tenth Doctor is, there's no particular problem in Rodri's infobox pic including the Tenth Doctor. Also, take care to remove any black which frames the pic, which you tend to get when you take the whole frame.

In general, though, your pics today were great! Keep 'em comin'!
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 13:28: Sun 13 Nov 2011 

See also

Please do not add "see also" sections to disambiguation pages. Please see Bill, William and Williams for examples of better ways to note other similar pages. Disambiguation pages should have disambiguation notes — not stuff tacked on to the bottom of the page. Thanks :)
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 04:20: Mon 14 Nov 2011 

Yes, please! "See also" sections on disambig pages aren't useful. Any related pages should be up top, where people will easily see them. Disambig notes at top should go in the order of 1) Any companions who have the name in question 2) any variations of the same name.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 06:35: Mon 14 Nov 2011 

By the way

Just so you know, it is not acceptable for a user just to edit pages that give them achievements; as you seem to have over the past 24 hours. Achievements are there to encourage users to edit there as well as other places on the wiki; you should not just edit there. Your recent edits mainly been around Torchwood television stories and Sarah Jane Smith audio stories.

Please remember that editing soley for achievement reasons can get you blocked and kicked of the Game of Rassilon, which you and we don't want. So just remember to edit every where you can on the wiki, not just in the places where there are achievements. MM/Want to talk? 20:16, December 18, 2011 (UTC)

Your input is needed!

You are invited to join the discussion at Forum:Can we disable visual editor please?.

czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 19:54: Tue 20 Dec 2011 

Your input is needed!

You are invited to join the discussion at Forum:Reference books - what do we cover?. --Tangerineduel / talk 14:21, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

X century individuals

Please note that a person's age does not factor into what century of individual they are. (i.e. 20th century individual) The only factor that really counts is the era we see them in or hear about them in. In other words, if we see a person in a sotry that take place in 2009, we say they are 21st century individuals. Even if they are 50 years old. However, if they mention something from 1980 and that they were present there, then they would be 20th and 21st century individuals. MM/Want to talk? 23:28, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Exactly. We don't know there background, for all we know they just have 'pop out the ground' or an alien from the future. If that was the case to say a century purely based in age would be wrong. It is simpler, and makes more sense to only categorise them by what era we see them in. MM/Want to talk? 23:41, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

Your input is needed!

You are invited to join the discussion at Forum:What makes an ally and an enemy?. --Tangerineduel / talk 12:27, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Categories

Please do not create nonsense categories such as 'Stories where the title of the episode is said' etc. This is just utter nonsense and there is absolutely no need for the category. The category was deleted before, so there was no need to recreate it again. It category has now been deleted again and protected so it cannot be create ever again.

Also, please make sure not all your edits are based on on what you can get points for in the Game of Rassilon, as it can get you blocked. MM/Want to talk? 11:58, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

I thought that was what was happening. I knew it had been created before and added to a high number of pages. It was me that reverted them, though I thought I got them all. Ah well, now worries, it wasn't your fault. Just keep an eye and mind out in future. Thanks, and keep up the great the work! MM/Want to talk? 12:05, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

Short block for spelling

Sorry about this, but I need to implement a short block on you so that you can understand the importance of following T:SPELL. As it says at the top of this very page, British English, please. If you had introduced American spellings onto page, I might not block you. But you have recently reverted back to American spellings on namespace:0 pages like Boar (Mad Dogs and Englishmen), which means you're actively — though possibly not maliciously — undoing existing correct spelling. (In the case cited, the spelling is fulfil not fulfill, as is outlined at T:SCC.) Please don't think this blocking reflects badly on you, or suggests that you're generally doing poor work here. Your contributions are valued and appreciated. However, as one of our more prolific editors, it must be stressed how important it is that you adhere to our spelling rules. Since you work on so many pages, there's the likelihood is that you would spread/are spreading spelling errors throughout the wiki.

For the three days you're blocked, you retain the ability to leave messages on this page, so if you have questions, please do ask them. I'd also strongly suggest that you read T:SPELL, Help:Spell checking and T:SCC, and that you take some time to generally explore the differences between British and American spelling on various websites around the web.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 18:03: Wed 15 Feb 2012 

I think I might know what happened. My hard drive recently crashed so I've been using a shared computer, so while I had installed a British English dictionary on my computer, I didn't want to on this one, as the person I'm sharing it with does a lot of work which requires American English. Still, I am relatively familiar with most British spellings and have tried to use them whenever possible. I apologize for the inconvenience this has caused. I'll try to refrain from making any spell checks in the future until I get my computer fixed and/or get a new one. Memnarc ^{talk to me} 00:26, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

Fair enough. Block lifted.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 01:44: Thu 16 Feb 2012 

I appear to still be blocked, is there some delay until it takes effect? Memnarc ^{talk to me} 04:08, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

Categories

Just wanted to say, thank you for all your hard work with the categories over the past few week, it has been a brilliant help and you done a fantastic job! Keep it up! MM/Want to talk? 12:08, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for adding the IMDb links to the pages I create regarding the crew of the Doctor Who TV movie. I would have added them myself, but I didn't really see it as a major thing to add, hence I put a stub on the article. Can you make sure that if you add a IMDb link to an article to a minor crew person or cast persons page, you removed the stub - all these minor pages need is a description of what they did/played and their IMDb link.

Thank again, it was really great help! Keep it up! MM/Want to talk? 23:51, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Species thingie in infobox

No . . . and yes, to answer your question. No, it's not "new" policy. The discussion to change race to species, at least in dab terms, was started last July and formally closed last month. So it had a good, long marination process. Granted, it wasn't a specific discussion to change variable names, but the concept preferencing species over race was a part of that discussion. And no one objected to the change.

But yes, I screwed up the coding slightly. I forgot to allow for the instances of race already in the system. That's been corrected now, so thanks for catching it!

However, please don't use race in any new articles as there's no guarantee that race will always be supported. Contrary to your assertion, it's actually quite an easy thing to change the variables out, and it is on my long-term list of goals to actually change all instances of race to species, then drop race from the template code. But that bot run is low priority, so race still has a few months left in 'er yet.

Thanks again for catching the error! Don't be afraid to pass along any similar notes to me!
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 03:53: Sun 11 Mar 2012 

Category:DWA comic stories

Hi, please don't add Category:DWA comic stories to any stories that are already categorised into Category:Tenth Doctor DWA comic stories or Category:Eleventh Doctor DWA comic stories. As these two categories are sub-categories of Category:DWA comic stories and therefore are already in that category. Much the same way that there are 13 subcategories in the Category:DWM comic stories and no stories in that category there should just be the sub-categories in the DWA comic stories category and no stories. --Tangerineduel / talk 08:59, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

That's okay, I've lost count of the mistakes I've made! Then there's the fixing which is far less interesting. --Tangerineduel / talk 09:29, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

Graphic novel issues

Since you didn't provide me a link, I had to take a quick look at your contribution history. Don't see anything on the front page to suggest that you've been working on graphic novels at all. Could you please provide a link to wherever you're having this problem? Hard to diagnose your problem without specifics. In the meantime, I've taken the precautionary step of formally changing links to the now-obsolete {{Infobox Graphic Novel}}. As has been widely mentioned in the forum, all stories are now handled by {{Infobox Story}}, which doesn't even have the variable you mentioned. Again, give me more specifics if you're still experiencing the problem and I'll fix your problems over the next 24 hours.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 01:59: Thu 05 Apr 2012 

Uncredited tag removal

There wasn't any source stated on any of those articles.

IMDB doesn't count. See T:SOURCES - "Avoid using non-peer-reviewed sources such as Wikipedia, the Internet Movie Database, blogs, or even the TARDIS Index File as cited sources for information such as airdates, casting, etc." . --Tangerineduel / talk 06:41, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Jaguar

At Jaguar, you removed category:Earth predators and gave a good reason. Then you immediately re-added it. If I didn't know better, I'd say you were deliberately trying to game the system, which is explicitly against the Game of Rassilon rules. Minor edits are certainly okay, even encouraged, within the spirit of the game, but doing and undoing the same edit, without good cause, aren't. I see no reason for you to have removed and added the category except to gain points in the Game of Rassilon. Please don't let it happen again. The whole point of the game is to improve articles, not just change their state.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 11:24: Fri 06 Apr 2012 

Cool! Sounds reasonable to me! Please play on!
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 22:05: Fri 06 Apr 2012 

Ya Sry, replaced ...

Pic sizes

Thanks for your recent pic uploads! However, do be careful about pic sizes. There's really no need for pics that are 2000 px wide, since they're never displayed at a width greater than 300px. As outlined at T:ICC, you should be aiming for file sizes of 100kb or less. In practice, it's usually easy to get pics well below 50kb. Do remember that a lot of users (stats say up to 20%) are viewing our site through mobile devices, which have relatively slower, wireless connections. Thus, we should be trying, where possible, to use smaller images so as to speed delivery of pages to mobile devices.

Also, you may wish to review tardis:guide to images for some tips about how to crop pics for maximum effect. Thanks :)
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 07:56: Fri 20 Apr 2012 

Images

Jack

The image you added, as I stated the image should be widescreen, yours was more portrait and also did not look at good in the infobox since it was the wrong aspect ratio. I have a feeling the image comes from Fragments, and is certainly not a promotional image.

I also stated that the current image is awful. Both were. Neither of them are/were suited to being and infobox pics - there are much better ones out there, we just need to find them.

As a side note, User:CzechOut deleted the images that I have stated above.

Tenth Doctor

Simply, the same as above. I was tasked with looking for a Tenth Doctor image by CezchOut, and this was one of the ones that I found. If you are unhappy with it, I would be than willing to upload the other versions that I have found and have a talk page discussion about it.

"What we really need is a more characteristic Tenth Doctor pic that's tight, left looking and preferably smiling rather than the dour I'm-about-to-die thing that's currently going on"

The above statement is what CzechOut gave to me, if you want to find an image to find that, it be great. Like I said, feel free to start a talk page discussion, I'd be more than happy to say my views, I not going to just say "My image was better than yours, don't think about changing it back", because I want to see if what you can find in regards to an image and get your views on the current image. I hope you understand.

Lastly, as a side note, this was not a criticism of you ability to choose images, it was purely keeping to our policy. I don't want you to be reading this and thinking "He hates me" or "he's a <insert vulgar expression>", I want you to know I want what is best for this wiki and it's community. I hope you can understand why I did, what I did and I hope that you will decide to start the talk page discussion (does not need to be right now). You are a great editor and I hope you continue your great and hard working with us for years to come. Thank you. MM/Want to talk? 22:07, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Images must work at the thumbnail level

Heya :) You've uploaded a lot of great pics over the past few days. Keep 'em comin'!

There have been a few misses, though, and so I wanted to explain one of the key, but more subjective, aspects of T:IUP/T:ICC.

Most people who visit our site never click on a thumbnail, and so they never see the picture the way that you do when you upload it. Heck, at least 20% of our users are mobile users and so they're looking at the site on a phone screen which doesn't allow for them to see it full resolution.

Therefore, the picture has to work at the thumbnail level.

This means that you should consider the following when choosing a pic:

• Is the image of a darkly- or unusually-lit scene? If so, it's probably not appropriate.
• Does this image have more than 3 people in it? If so, none of them are likely very distinct at thumbnail size.
• Are all of the subject's backs to camera? If so, don't use it, because we're not used to seeing characters from behind, and therefore they're going to be hard to recognise at full resolution, much less at thumb size.
• Are the subjects filmed from a sufficient distance to see most or all of their legs in the frame? If so, it's not going to render well at the thumbnail level. Generally, it's best to work with frames that are either very tight on the face or that capture no more than a waist-up shot of them.

Strong, bright images, face-front, face-dominant. That's what we need in order for our pictures to actually illustrate our articles for all of our users.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 15:02: Mon 07 May 2012 

Yep, I'd agree. You've done a fine job in most instances. But there just have been some in this latest bunch that caught my eye as being off. Not sure I see the distinction you're trying to make between character pages and story pages. A thumbnail is a thumbnail is a thumbnail. It's not like by being on a particular type of page that the guidelines change. If you want more specific notes on some of your latest contributions, please see tardis:Guide to images#Images must work as thumbnails, where you'll find specific notes about five of your recent images.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 23:14: Mon 07 May 2012 

Note

Please do not change an image just because it looks promotional. It either is a promotional image, in that case it should be removed or it isn't, in what is case is can stay. Always check first. MM/Want to talk? 10:34, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Screenshots should be .jpg, but will have be .png if that is all that is available. As for promotional images, they are not to be used on in-universe articles. However the point still stands, if your not sure whether an image is a promo of not, just check. MM/Want to talk? 11:04, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Edit conflict

I see at talk:Tenth Doctor that we got into an edit conflict. The easiest resolution was simply to skip over your comments, whatever they were. Sorry about that, but the newest poll was, in my view, a bit premature and needed to be closed before people put too much effort into it. Besides, at the time I started editing my post no one had voted in a way that was suggested a different consensus from the previous poll.

It's not really time for a new poll there. We need to be gathering more pics that address the central problem that started the move for the infobox switch. Namely, we need a lot more pics that are true closeups. So I've added some new pictures and invited people to add even more. We can take our time with this discussion, as opposed to the Eleventh Doctor one, because there's not really any new Tenth Doctor stuff comin out any time soon. (That we know of.)

Again, not trying to squelch your views. We were just both in the same place at the same time.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 01:15: Thu 10 May 2012 

Hi, I'm new to this wiki and I was wondering...where do you go to make blog posts? ~~Emily Windsnap~~

File renames

Renaming files is a privilege only for admins. Obviously, there could be a lot of chaos caused if users had the ability, particularly with files that are used on a lot of different pages. You may request a file name be changed using either the ordinary {{rename}} template or {{spelled}}. It is absolutely disallowed to intentionally upload a duplicate simply to correct a file name error. If you find that admin are not responding within a day of your request, you may feel free to highlight your request on an admin's user talk page. Nevertheless, naming errors aren't particularly serious, and there is usually no issue in using the "bad" file name.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 04:55: Thu 31 May 2012 

31 Who

Why would 31 Who screenshots be merged with BBC screenshots? They're two totally different companies, two distinct copyright holders. {{31 Who screenshot}} was removed from the dropdown list because people had been abusing it. There are very few instances in which {{31 Who screenshot}} is appropriate. You appear to be one of the users who was misapplying it, as you did with file:Cg mara.jpg. I think you might want to read the article at 31 Who to understand what the programme was. {{31 Who screenshot}} is only for those things which are 100% copyright BSB — basically just the interstitial, non-narrative moments of the 31 Who event. Screenshots from within the body of the typical Doctor Who/Torchwood/SJA episode should use {{screenshot}} only.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 03:41: Fri 01 Jun 2012 

Wikipediainfo

You're confusing {{wikipediainfo}} with {{wikipedia}}. {{wikipediainfo}} is merely for giving a link to the Wikipedia article. It is by tradition placed on any page whose topic exists in the real world. Its primary use, from an editorial point of view, is to stop people from providing more information than is given in the DWU. Your first line at crystal ball, for instance, is arguably not something observable in DWU stories. Basically, the template lets the article writer "hand off' to wikipedia to fill in the real world or "common sense" stuff about a topic.

{{wikipedia}} is a template we're phasing out. It says that the article is derived from a wikipedia article, and provides links not just to the article, but to its list of contributors. It's no longer really necessary as we've forbidden wikipedia copying for years now, and most of our articles that started out as Wikipedia forks are no longer remotely close to their current form on Wikipedia.

By using {{wikipediainfo}} Doug86 was therefore not saying that you got the article from Wikipedia. He was just, correctly, providing an external link.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 20:00: Tue 19 Jun 2012 

Thanks for the advice. I appreciate it. --Cyruptsaram ^{talk to me} 06:43, July 15, 2012 (UTC)

Categories

Do you mean being more specific, like '20th century individuals'?

Thank you very much for the advice. In future I will research the time zone the characters are placed in and then categorise them using that specific time.

Mutter's Spiral

I see that you've put the "Mutter's spiral" categories on some pages related to Assimilation². I'm wondering whether the Star Trek species and planets really are in "Mutter's spiral". I mean, sure, they're in the Milky Way galaxy, but they're in the Star Trek version of the Milky Way galaxy. And although we haven't had explicit confirmation yet, it looks as if the story is treating the Star Trek universe as a parallel universe or alternate timeline from the Doctor's "usual" universe. So I'm not sure that there are Klingons or Deltans in Mutter's Spiral, per se. What do you think? Should we add this wrinkle to the forum discussion? —Josiah Rowe ☎ 03:12, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

You may have a point

While I still think that there's grounds for calling them Mutter's Spiral species/planets (etc), as it still is the Milky Way galaxy as you said, I can also see how it being a parallel universe (is that confirmed yet?) might affect the categorisation. A discussion is probably in order. Memnarc ☎ 05:35, July 22, 2012 (UTC)

I've raised the issue at Forum:IDW Doctor Who/Star Trek crossover#A question of categorization. —Josiah Rowe ☎ 02:50, July 23, 2012 (UTC)

Badge bug

See Forum:Game of Rassilon errors.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  03:56: Sun 16 Sep 2012

Master images

I notice that you're changing a lot of the Master infoboxes. I should advise that you're wasting your time. These pages will soon be destroyed, per longstanding forum consensus. Thus, there will no longer be an infobox to illustrate.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  02:47: Tue 18 Sep 2012

See Forum:The Master - 1 article and its predecessor Forum:The Master. This change has been brewing for like two years.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  03:04: Tue 18 Sep 2012

A question on your edit to Susan. If individual animals aren't put as Earth mammals, then why is there a badge called 'Rose is such a dog'? Cult Of Skaro ☎ 12:19, September 20, 2012 (UTC)

No shots of people's backsides, please

Infobox or other pictures should never, under just about any circumstances, have all subjects with their asses to camera. This is a basic violation of T:GTI. Thanks for trying to improve the page, as you did at Smith and Jones — but improvement must be within our guidelines. There are plenty of other face-front pics of "Smith and Jones" to choose from in that adventure.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  01:30: Fri 28 Sep 2012