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 Just mentioning, someone posted a good bit of speculation on the talk page.  Do you think this could be the start of the Valeyard?  [[User:Imamadmad|Imamadmad]] [[User talk:Imamadmad|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:07, November 4, 2012 (UTC)
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+:Erm,a bit surprised that no one really seems to be focusing on the whole Dark Doctor side of things,which goes way back to Donna saying that the doctor needs someone to hold him back (or similar).Then waters of Mars and plenty since,like him being called a warrior,being the demon or goblin that drops out of the skies and destroys your world in the Pandorica episode.
+:He is the monster to some beings!And he is getting harsher,and there is a war with the Silence,which he is a bit wibbly wobbly about,time wise.So,I think we  are getting near the end of his regenerations (he's used up some on his arm and on River's hand),and some of us  know from a long time ago who comes along next/soon....
+:"Doctor Who?"A new name that describes a Dark Doctor much better....or,I am writing this all in my head,and it's complete nonsense!--[[Special:Contributions/92.29.249.227|92.29.249.227]]<sup>[[User talk:92.29.249.227#top|talk to me]]</sup> 21:32, October 31, 2012 (UTC)
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+Imamadmad: Not if "the start of the Valeyard" is taken as meaning "the start of the Dark Side of the Doctor", since that's always been there -- sometimes more evident, sometimes less. Another step towards the Valeyard, perhaps. As I recall, the Valeyard himself, as a distinct entity, arose round about the regeneration after next, between the twelfth & final incarnations of the Doctor, so there ought to be a way to go yet.
+There's also the possibility (even the likelihood) that the Valeyard came from a timeline that's now been negated. If he arose in the future of the Doctor's current timeline, there'd need to be some way for him to get back to pre-Time-War Gallifrey. There'd also need to be some reason for him to want to do so.
+I'm not, though, saying that we '''couldn't''' be heading in that direction. It's just that there's too much involved in getting there to make speculation about it '''now''' at all useful. There's at least one regeneration to go before we get to the point where the Valeyard might be in the offing & we'd also need some kind of evidence that contact with pre-Time-War Gallifrey might be possible.
+In summary: The idea's worth bearing in mind & it makes sense to watch out for developments that might be laying the groundwork for it but we're nothing like close enough to be able to do anything more than keep a "watching brief". --[[Special:Contributions/89.241.71.10|89.241.71.10]]<sup>[[User talk:89.241.71.10#top|talk to me]]</sup> 16:37, November 4, 2012 (UTC)