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+{{archive|Panopticon archives}}[[category:design changers]]
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-Where are all the Who fans??? [[User:Joker1138|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''Joker1138'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Joker1138|<span style="color:black;">The Hub</span>]])</sup> [[Image:Daleknew.jpg|25px]]
+Where are all the Who fans??? [[User:Joker1138|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''Joker1138'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Joker1138|<span style="color:black;">The Hub</span>]])</sup>
 :Hey, in my defense, I ''did'' advertised on my [http://azes13.deviantart.com/ my deviantART account]. No affect... [[User:Azes13|Azes13]] 20:02, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
-Its not against you, this site should have a hell of a lot more members, what about that outpost site. [[User:Joker1138|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''Joker1138'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Joker1138|<span style="color:black;">The Hub</span>]])</sup> [[Image:Daleknew.jpg|25px]]
+Its not against you, this site should have a hell of a lot more members, what about that outpost site. [[User:Joker1138|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''Joker1138'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Joker1138|<span style="color:black;">The Hub</span>]])</sup>
 ==Where we can summarize what we have done to promote the Wiki so far==
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 ::::Yeah, that works too... {{:User:Ghelæ/sig}} 17:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
+:I think we need to revamp the look of the site, the regeneration of Tardis Wiki if you will.  [[User:Joker1138|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''Joker1138'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Joker1138|<span style="color:black;">The Hub</span>]])</sup>
-:I think we need to revamp the look of the site, the regeneration of Tardis Wiki if you will.  [[User:Joker1138|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''Joker1138'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Joker1138|<span style="color:black;">The Hub</span>]])</sup> [[Image:Daleknew.jpg|25px]]
 ::Yes, regenerate... in what way? Like how we've discussed? Or more of a total redo? Or a complete/major reskinning of the main page? Or something entirely different? {{:User:Ghelæ/sig}} 18:56, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
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 *'''Finally and most importantly we have begun the search for new members, all effort must be placed into this task if TARDIS is ever going to grow'''.
-[[User:Joker1138|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''Joker1138'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Joker1138|<span style="color:black;">The Hub</span>]])</sup> [[Image:Daleknew.jpg|25px]]
+[[User:Joker1138|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''Joker1138'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Joker1138|<span style="color:black;">The Hub</span>]])</sup>
 :::Can I ask what's wrong with the present logo and how we might improve on it? --[[User:Mantrid|Mantrid]] 19:44, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
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 :::::Hmm, that sounds like a good idea...[[User:Azes13|Azes13]] 22:09, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
-I don’t know, its still good, it depends if it comes under the overall change, [[User:Joker1138|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''Joker1138'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Joker1138|<span style="color:black;">The Hub</span>]])</sup> [[Image:Daleknew.jpg|25px]]
+I don’t know, its still good, it depends if it comes under the overall change, [[User:Joker1138|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''Joker1138'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Joker1138|<span style="color:black;">The Hub</span>]])</sup>
 :*As for admins, Azes13 and Mantrid are both sysops who commonly edit this wiki, as is Freethinker1of1, so admins aren't in too short a supply (when you consider that you, Stardizzy, Tangerineduel and I are the other users that most commonly edit the wiki) at the moment.
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 ::::*I mean getting new members would be helpful, but it doesn't mean we should neglect the articles. You know, 'cause I got from the comment that [[user:Joker1138|Joker1138 ]] didn't want to put any effort into the improvement. [[User:Azes13|Azes13]] 21:31, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
-*The main thing is to improve the articles, I didn’t mention it because I thought it was a given, this whole site is about articles and how detailed they are.   [[User:Joker1138|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''Joker1138'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Joker1138|<span style="color:black;">The Hub</span>]])</sup> [[Image:Daleknew.jpg|25px]]
+:::::*Yeah!
+:::::*Yeah...
+:::::*Yeah.
+:::::*Yeah, I agree with you agreeing with me agreeing with you agreeing with me.
+:::::*Yeah? {{:User:Ghelæ/sig}} 16:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
+*The main thing is to improve the articles, I didn’t mention it because I thought it was a given, this whole site is about articles and how detailed they are.   [[User:Joker1138|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''Joker1138'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Joker1138|<span style="color:black;">The Hub</span>]])</sup>
+:discussions on improving the articles should perhaps get its own section of the forum. though of course, the quality of the information and the quantity of contributors have, of course, a symbiotic relationship and one will affect the other. once we reach a critical level I think we won't have to worry about getting new members, however, I think we always keep plugging away at raising the quality.--[[User:***Stardizzy***|***Stardizzy***]] 16:14, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
+*Which way should we be improving the articles?
+Quantity or quality.
+I'm more inclined to go with quantity, getting all the inter-referencing linked to ''something'', which might persuade new members to add more detail.
+As I see it new members may be more inclined to add to articles (even if said articles just have headings and ''to be added'') than actually write whole articles....(I know it's still a large undertaking).
+The white 'skin' of this site is...bland, but it's also relatively easy on the eye, unusualness is all well and good, but it's also going to need to be user friendly. I don't think the black background ala Memory Alpha would work here (it works for the space shippy Memory Alpha, but Doctor Who is a more than just space shippy stuff)...not that there's anything wrong with space shippy stuff.
+[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 14:21, 31 January (UTC)...''is there a way you insert this time and date that I neglected to read about?...''
+:on the little toobar about the space where you can write, you can see, off to the right, what looks like a wriggly line. between the W with a slash through it and the dash. click that and your signature, date and time appear.--[[User:***Stardizzy***|***Stardizzy***]] 16:14, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
+=====If I may be so bold...=====
+(Please pardon the rather dramatic de-lurk, if you would.)  I maintain a message board dedicated to science fiction writing.  I would be pleased to mention this wiki there, as I've been a longtime lurker and would like to help in whatever way I could.  I know several of my board's members are Whovians in some capacity.  I also run an IRC channel in which there are a few Whovians, one of whom is quite knowledgeable; I can see about getting the word out that way, too. -- [[User:CydoniaRaven|CydoniaRaven]] 14:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
+:Thanks, that would be helpful! [[User:Azes13|Azes13]] 14:46, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
+::it would. and when you have done it, please put down that you have on the section above where we talk about what we have already done to promote the Wiki. also, where would we find the messageboard, just out of general interest? --[[User:***Stardizzy***|***Stardizzy***]] 16:14, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
+The board is at [http://com2.runboard.com/bbeyondhorizons Beyond Horizons].  There isn't much going on right now, unfortunately; writers tend to be a streakish lot from what I've seen.  (I left this paragraph unindented so it would stick out for you.) -- [[User:CydoniaRaven|CydoniaRaven]] 21:57, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
+:::I'm just a visitor, so I hope you guys don't mind if I add my two cents. I'm one of the founders of [[w:c:Muppet:Muppet Wiki|Muppet Wiki]]. What we've found is that users are more likely to stick around if you post a welcome message to everybody who makes a contribution. It makes people feel good when somebody notices that they showed up, and it makes them more likely to stick around.
+:::We have a [[w:c:Muppet:Template:Welcome|welcome message for new IPs]], and [[w:c:Muppet:Template:Welcome-d|a different message]] for people who have signed in. I notice from the Recent changes here that you guys don't use your user talk pages very much. I think that really helps to build your contributor base. If there's any way that I can help you, please come visit me on Muppet Wiki! -- [[User:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue">Danny</font>]] ([[User talk:Toughpigs|<font color="Blue" size="1">talk</font>]]) 17:04, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
+::::Well, it's an idea we can use... everybody for, type... erm... well, for, I suppose.  {{:User:Ghelæ/sig}} 17:15, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
+:::::For, I suppose. Too the talk pages! [[User:Azes13|Azes13]] 18:36, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
+::::::It might help if we had proper welcoming templates... {{:User:Ghelæ/sig}} 19:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
+::::::And just for the record, you used the wrong sort of "to". {{:User:Ghelæ/sig}} 16:27, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
+:So, erm, anyobdy else for? {{:User:Ghelæ/sig}} 16:49, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
+::anyone else for what? I write the welcoming messages. I wouldn't know how to "implement" them or whatever you do, but I can write the texts.
+::a friendly-looking photo of the Tenth Doctor opening the door of the TARDIS and saying hi you would look good, like at the start of [[Attack of the Graske (video game)|Attack of the Graske]], for the greeting. --[[User:***Stardizzy***|***Stardizzy***]] 20:33, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
+:::Well, Wikipedia has a welcome template which can be added to a userpage by adding <nowiki>{{subst:welcome}}~~~~</nowiki> <!--without the "nowiki" tags --> , so perhaps we could have the same. {{:User:Ghelæ/sig}} 08:37, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
+Hows this
+:That looks great. My only comment would be that the photo seems to be out of proportion. --[[User:Mantrid|Mantrid]] 12:49, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
+{| width="100%" style="background: transparent; "
+| valign="top" width="50%" style="background:skyblue; border: 2px solid #000000; padding: .5em 1em; -moz-border-radius: 1em"|
+== Hello (Name) Welcome to the TARDIS! ==
+Hello and welcome to the TARDIS Index File. We hope you like the Tardis and choose to join our work. Here are a few good links for newcomers:
+[[file:Welcome.jpg |right|250px]]
+*Internal pages:
+**TARDIS crew members
+**[[Forum:Panopticon|Forum:Panopticon]]
+**[[Current events| Current events]]
+**[[Help| Help:Contents]]
+*External Wikipedia pages:
+**[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:How to edit a page|How to edit a page]]
+**[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Tutorial|Editing, policy, conduct, and structure tutorial]]
+**[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Picture tutorial|Picture tutorial]]
+**[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:How to write a great article|How to write a great article]]
+Remember that you should always sign your comments on talk and vote pages using four tildes, like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.
+We hope you enjoy editing here and being a member of the TARDIS crew! If you have any questions, see the [[Help| Help:Contents]], add a question to the Forum [[Forum:Index|Index]].
+|}
+[[User:Joker1138|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''Joker1138'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Joker1138|<span style="color:black;">The Hub</span>]])</sup>
+====more possible photos====
+::I would edit the text so it doesn't say hello and welcome to the TARDIS twice. also, it looks a little strange having the Doctor in a space suit.
+::so, I have a photo that I found today. lacking image editing software I have just made a thumbnail of it. tomorrow I can both reduce the size, and on request, make it look like a photo taken in the TARDIS. okay, hope this works...
+[[file:DW20052x03SchoolR-00033.jpg|left|thumb|110px|thumbnail only! not really this size]]
+::the actual image from "Attack of the Graske", which I just found:
+[[file:Attackofgraske.jpg|left|thumb|110px|again, just a thumbnail]]
+--[[User:***Stardizzy***|***Stardizzy***]] 21:14, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
+<br clear=all>
+==2nd Go==
+{| width="100%" style="background: transparent; "
+| valign="top" width="50%" style="background:skyblue; border: 2px solid #000000; padding: .5em 1em; -moz-border-radius: 1em"|
+==Hello (Name)==
+Welcome to the TARDIS Index File. We hope you like the Tardis and choose to join our work. Here are a few good links for newcomers:
+[[file:Hello.jpg|right|240px]]
+*Internal pages:
+**TARDIS crew members
+**[[Forum:Panopticon|Forum:Panopticon]]
+**[[Current events| Current events]]
+**[[Help| Help:Contents]]
+*External Wikipedia pages:
+**[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:How to edit a page|How to edit a page]]
+**[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Tutorial|Editing, policy, conduct, and structure tutorial]]
+**[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Picture tutorial|Picture tutorial]]
+**[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:How to write a great article|How to write a great article]]
+Remember that you should always sign your comments on talk and vote pages using four tildes, like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>.
+We hope you enjoy editing here and being a member of the TARDIS crew! If you have any questions, see the [[Help| Help:Contents]], add a question to the Forum [[Forum:Index|Index]].
+|}
+[[User:Joker1138|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''Joker1138'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Joker1138|<span style="color:black;">The Hub</span>]])</sup>
+:Looks good. I'm not sure if we need the [[Current events]] since they aren't actually all that current. Also, Internal pages: and External Wikipedia pages: might look better bolded. [[User:Azes13|Azes13]] 01:31, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
+::whoops, I accidentally made the blue part go away, but here you can see what this would look like with slightly revised text. I vote we keep Current events for when more of them start happening. --[[User:***Stardizzy***|***Stardizzy***]] 02:09, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
+{| width="100%" style="background: transparent; "
+| valign="top" width="50%" style="background:skyblue; border: 2px solid #000000; padding: .5em 1em; -moz-border-radius: 1em"|
+==Welcome aboard, (Name)==
+Welcome to the TARDIS Index File. We only take the best! Here are a few good links for newcomers:
+[[file:Hello.jpg|right|240px]]
+*'''Internal pages'''
+**TARDIS:TARDIS crew members
+**[[Forum:Panopticon| The Panopticon]]
+**[[Current events| Current events]]
+**[[Help:Contents| Help pages]]
+*'''External Wikipedia pages'''
+**[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:How to edit a page|How to edit a page]]
+**[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Tutorial|Editing, policy, conduct, and structure tutorial]]
+**[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Picture tutorial|Picture tutorial]]
+**[[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:How to write a great article|How to write a great article]]
+Remember that you should always sign your comments on talk and vote pages using four tildes, like this: <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki> or use the button above the edit space, that looks like a signature.
+We hope you enjoy editing here and being a member of the TARDIS crew! If you have any questions, see the [[Help:Contents| Help pages]], add a question to one of [[Forum:Index|the Forums]].
+|} --[[User:***Stardizzy***|***Stardizzy***]] 02:00, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
+:I hope it's okay that I've just made a few slight modifications to the last version, by changing some of the links to bypass redirects, etc. Anyway, now I think that's probably one of the best templates we can do (although I might change my mind later). {{:User:Ghelæ/sig}} 08:24, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
+:So, shall we create it? {{:User:Ghelæ/sig}} 09:16, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
+::Looks good to me, Create away! [[User:Joker1138|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''Joker1138'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Joker1138|<span style="color:black;">The Hub</span>]])</sup>
+:::Created away!... or something to that effect. Now at [[template:welcome]]. {{:User:Ghelæ/sig}} 13:10, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
+==Websites==
+I have contacted DavidTannant.com and asked if they would put us in there Links, which should attract more people. [[User:Joker1138|<span style="color:darkblue;">'''Joker1138'''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Joker1138|<span style="color:black;">The Hub</span>]])</sup>