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I certainly don't want to vandalize. The addition of the short story "Under the Stairs" falls under the category of fan fiction, however the novel Time's Champion, although an unofficial publication, can be argued is more than this. It is a full-length novel, based on a commissioned author's work and edited and printed by Doctor Who affliated professionals. It represents many years of work and planning, as well as the final fictional work of Craig Hinton's life. The story also is recognized by respected series podcasts and websites. It has been included in many noted affliate website for sale; the story itself is being circulated by readers and its effects on reader's perceptions of continuity are clear as any other officially published novel. It should be noted, also, that there are examples of unofficial stories which have gained "canonical" status due to their importance on the character development and backhistory of the Doctor and/or companions, such as "Schrodigner's Botanist" in the Perfect Timing collection serving as Grant Markham's departure, or Craig Hinton's own "One Perfect Twlight" as the origin of Kamelion. Therefore, based on precedence and the notariety of this novel, I feel that it is perhaps unfair to label "Time's Champion" as simply fan fiction, whose additions to continuity on this wiki would be dismissed as potential vandalism. Consider, the John Benton webpage now lists the character's birthday as 6 January, 1938, a date supplied by "Time's Champion." The Valeyard page is sure to note the origins of the character based from this novel as well, as it is the only source in Doctor Who fiction to examine this backhistory. In all, I feel that it should not be a problem to list the continuity point that the War Chief is the Master based on information provided in "Time's Champion." After all, what is Doctor Who but all fan fiction? :)--[[User:Medusa Cascade|Medusa Cascade]] 01:05, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[[User:Medusa Cascade|Medusa Cascade]] 01:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC) | I certainly don't want to vandalize. The addition of the short story "Under the Stairs" falls under the category of fan fiction, however the novel Time's Champion, although an unofficial publication, can be argued is more than this. It is a full-length novel, based on a commissioned author's work and edited and printed by Doctor Who affliated professionals. It represents many years of work and planning, as well as the final fictional work of Craig Hinton's life. The story also is recognized by respected series podcasts and websites. It has been included in many noted affliate website for sale; the story itself is being circulated by readers and its effects on reader's perceptions of continuity are clear as any other officially published novel. It should be noted, also, that there are examples of unofficial stories which have gained "canonical" status due to their importance on the character development and backhistory of the Doctor and/or companions, such as "Schrodigner's Botanist" in the Perfect Timing collection serving as Grant Markham's departure, or Craig Hinton's own "One Perfect Twlight" as the origin of Kamelion. Therefore, based on precedence and the notariety of this novel, I feel that it is perhaps unfair to label "Time's Champion" as simply fan fiction, whose additions to continuity on this wiki would be dismissed as potential vandalism. Consider, the John Benton webpage now lists the character's birthday as 6 January, 1938, a date supplied by "Time's Champion." The Valeyard page is sure to note the origins of the character based from this novel as well, as it is the only source in Doctor Who fiction to examine this backhistory. In all, I feel that it should not be a problem to list the continuity point that the War Chief is the Master based on information provided in "Time's Champion." After all, what is Doctor Who but all fan fiction? :)--[[User:Medusa Cascade|Medusa Cascade]] 01:05, 20 August 2008 (UTC)[[User:Medusa Cascade|Medusa Cascade]] 01:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC) | ||
Times Champion is a fan fiction novel and nothing more, arguing that it is otherwise is pointless as i myself could write a novel like that and get it published and reference all these back stories but fact is fact that it is not licensed or published by the BBC and therefore fan fiction as i have not been paid to write the story by the bbc and they have not edited it to ensure they agree with its content. | |||
Not that i have anything against the book (and in fact am interested in purchasing or ordering a copy) but its not a licenced book therefor it's information doesn't belong on the wiki's inuniverse articles and the examples you gave should be deleted. | |||
You are right is saying that it is more than fan fiction and that fact is the reason why it has an article dedicated to it but it is not a credible source and should not on other articles. | |||
also in future please reply on my talk page its only by chance that i found your reply --[[User:Dark Lord Xander|Dark Lord Xander]] 06:32, 20 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
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Please do not place fan fiction on the wiki's articles such as The Master as this can be seen as vandalism Dark Lord Xander 06:09, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
I certainly don't want to vandalize. The addition of the short story "Under the Stairs" falls under the category of fan fiction, however the novel Time's Champion, although an unofficial publication, can be argued is more than this. It is a full-length novel, based on a commissioned author's work and edited and printed by Doctor Who affliated professionals. It represents many years of work and planning, as well as the final fictional work of Craig Hinton's life. The story also is recognized by respected series podcasts and websites. It has been included in many noted affliate website for sale; the story itself is being circulated by readers and its effects on reader's perceptions of continuity are clear as any other officially published novel. It should be noted, also, that there are examples of unofficial stories which have gained "canonical" status due to their importance on the character development and backhistory of the Doctor and/or companions, such as "Schrodigner's Botanist" in the Perfect Timing collection serving as Grant Markham's departure, or Craig Hinton's own "One Perfect Twlight" as the origin of Kamelion. Therefore, based on precedence and the notariety of this novel, I feel that it is perhaps unfair to label "Time's Champion" as simply fan fiction, whose additions to continuity on this wiki would be dismissed as potential vandalism. Consider, the John Benton webpage now lists the character's birthday as 6 January, 1938, a date supplied by "Time's Champion." The Valeyard page is sure to note the origins of the character based from this novel as well, as it is the only source in Doctor Who fiction to examine this backhistory. In all, I feel that it should not be a problem to list the continuity point that the War Chief is the Master based on information provided in "Time's Champion." After all, what is Doctor Who but all fan fiction? :)--Medusa Cascade 01:05, 20 August 2008 (UTC)Medusa Cascade 01:04, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Times Champion is a fan fiction novel and nothing more, arguing that it is otherwise is pointless as i myself could write a novel like that and get it published and reference all these back stories but fact is fact that it is not licensed or published by the BBC and therefore fan fiction as i have not been paid to write the story by the bbc and they have not edited it to ensure they agree with its content.
Not that i have anything against the book (and in fact am interested in purchasing or ordering a copy) but its not a licenced book therefor it's information doesn't belong on the wiki's inuniverse articles and the examples you gave should be deleted.
You are right is saying that it is more than fan fiction and that fact is the reason why it has an article dedicated to it but it is not a credible source and should not on other articles.
also in future please reply on my talk page its only by chance that i found your reply --Dark Lord Xander 06:32, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
