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Hi all long time since I have edited this wonderful wiki!!!!! Right in the end of time part two the master in order to stop Rassilon and the Time Lords from destroying the earth and the doctor sacrificed himself by locking himself into the timewar.

With the events of the Day of the Doctor does this mean that the Master is out there somewhere on Gallifrey along with Rassilon. Just a fan theory, I know Moffat does not like the Master, however is the doctors evil equal alive then along with Rassilon. Who knows huh who knows??????

p.s. Am I the first fan to speculate this --Catkind121 23:21, November 23, 2013 (UTC)

I had pretty much the same thought, it does make sense and I hope he is indeed alive -- Donovan-j-charlie ☎ 01:03, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Yes. Hopefully Capaldi's Doctor (whose brilliant appearance in the 50th made my day) will meet a new Master. And maybe we'll see the mysterious woman from The End of Time Part 2. Or at least find out who she is. 87.102.91.126^{talk to me} 12:35, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, maybe she is still alive, Rassilon is still alive, Romana and the Rani are still alive, maybe series 8 could explore Gallifrey more --Catkind121 21:39, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

The ending certainly implies that a new "quest" for Galifrey may be in the offing for the Doctor. But What I don't quite get is if they jointly turned Galifrey into a Time Lord snapshot, shouldn't someone have it? Wouldn't someone think to ask who picked it up? Phil Stone ☎ 22:20, November 24, 2013 (UTC)

The "snapshot" was said to be in a parallel universe/dimension or something, so it was no longer in N-Space, presumably (I think that's how N-Space works, right? haven't seen those stories yet). And, while the Master and Rassilon weren't killed by the Moment ending the Time War, they were still locked in presumably mortal combat when the Time Lock resealed, so one or both of them might not be alive for more than a few more minutes relative time, and also consider that the Time Lord High Council might still have thoughts of enacting the Ultimate Sanction (or whatever it was called) of ending Time itself, simply because they'd themselves become just as crazy and power-hungry as the Daleks by that point. Just chew on those facts for a bit. —BioniclesaurKing4t2 - "Hello, I'm the Doctor. Basically, . . . run." 02:56, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

And even if they notice the Daleks are gone before they use the Ultimate Sanction, wont those guys want to go after the Daleks in revenge and basically re-start the Time War? Unless Rasillon and his clique are deposed.Phil Stone ☎ 04:17, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

They and the Master destroy each other? —BioniclesaurKing4t2 - "Hello, I'm the Doctor. Basically, . . . run." 04:27, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

Plenty of material for future stories, as Catkind121 says. And isn't there still an unopened Time Lord snapshot in the museum -- a snapshot titled "Gallifrey Falls No More"? --89.241.209.137^{talk to me} 11:08, November 25, 2013 (UTC)

BTW, in several places (though not in this topic) I've seen the assumption made that, because the Moment wasn't used, the Time Lock is no longer in place. As far as I know, the only source that's connected the two things is a comic (correct me if I'm misinformed) & that source has now been thoroughly contradicted about the nature of the Moment. On screen, the Time Lock has never been attributed to the use of the Moment. Also, the Doctor has consistently spoken of ending the Time War -- by destroying the Time Lords & almost destroying the Daleks -- as something he did but he's been equally consistent in speaking of the Time Lock as something he did not do -- pretty much as something that just happened. We've never yet been told how or by whom the Time Lock was imposed &, in The End of Time, it seemed to be something that even the Time Lords, including Rassilon, could do nothing about without resorting to complicated (& eventually unsuccessful) trickery.

Even in The Day of the Doctor, the Doctor expected the Time Lock to be in place & was surprised that they'd been able to get through it. Ten said "something" must have let them through. In the revived series, we've only seen one being who could plausibly have been able to let them through the Time Lock without otherwise disturbing it -- the Bad Wolf. Was it just the interface of the Moment taking the appearance of Rose/the Bad Wolf or was it really the Bad Wolf interacting with the Moment to save the Doctor again (& to save him from his own desperate actions again)? --89.241.217.89^{talk to me} 16:51, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

How about this:- it was the effect of the 13 TARDISes which time locked Gallifrey, and caused the Daleks to be almost wiped out. Ten and Eleven then returned to their own timelines and forgot about the incident. BUT they noticed that Gallifrey was timelocked and assumed that it was effects of The Moment which had caused both Gallifrey AND the Daleks to become timelocked. 187.78.103.107^{talk to me} 20:05, November 26, 2013 (UTC)