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:: I think there's an issue all to itself for anything involving Kate Stewart, as there is explicitly a two-year gap between the Doctor's visit during events of ''The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe'' and the one before that (and even more time before ''Dinosaurs on a Spaceship'' and ''The Power of Three''). Howeverr, I believe ''The Name of the Doctor'' explicitly has Clara's dream-inducing letter dated to 2013. My personal thoughts on this is that there is a sizable gap after ''The Name of the Doctor'' where The Year of the Slow Invasion from ''The Power of Three'' happens, and that ''The Day of the Doctor'' and ''The Time of the Doctor'' is set in some ambiguous near-future setting in the mid-to-late 2010s. I also believe that the 2012 New York from ''The Angels Take Manhattan'' isn't necessarily Amy and Rory's present, nor is there anything in the narrative which implies that it's supposed to be. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 12:47, June 18, 2014 (UTC) | :: I think there's an issue all to itself for anything involving Kate Stewart, as there is explicitly a two-year gap between the Doctor's visit during events of ''The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe'' and the one before that (and even more time before ''Dinosaurs on a Spaceship'' and ''The Power of Three''). Howeverr, I believe ''The Name of the Doctor'' explicitly has Clara's dream-inducing letter dated to 2013. My personal thoughts on this is that there is a sizable gap after ''The Name of the Doctor'' where The Year of the Slow Invasion from ''The Power of Three'' happens, and that ''The Day of the Doctor'' and ''The Time of the Doctor'' is set in some ambiguous near-future setting in the mid-to-late 2010s. I also believe that the 2012 New York from ''The Angels Take Manhattan'' isn't necessarily Amy and Rory's present, nor is there anything in the narrative which implies that it's supposed to be. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 12:47, June 18, 2014 (UTC) | ||
Amy & Rory's wedding is dated exactly: 26 June 2010. ''Closing Time'' is also dated exactly (by a newspaper on the middle of its 3 days): 18 - 20 April 2011. The shooting at Lake Silencio is 22 April 2011 in both ''The Impossible Astronaut'' & ''The Wedding of River Song''. The Doctor's Christmas visit to Amy & Rory at the end of ''The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe'' is, for Amy & Rory, 2 years after they'd last seen him. Allowing for the to-and-froing in Series 6, that means 25 December 2013 '''at the earliest''' (I don't recall anything that clearly says Series 6 was their most recent contact). Even without the additional interval before ''Asylum of the Daleks'' & the further intervals between that & ''The Power of Three'', we can be '''certain''' that the 2012 visit to New York in ''The Angels Take Manhattan'' was a trip back in time for Amy & Rory. | |||
However, we have nothing to say that Clara's present day is consistently later (in terms of the calendar) than Amy & Rory's present day was. In fact, we have the opposite: Clara received Vastra's letter in April 2013 (I think 10 April 2013), so an overlap is certain. In terms of the calendar, when Clara opened that letter, Amy & Rory still had over 8 months to wait before receiving the Doctor's Christmas visit at the end of ''The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe''. | |||
The same applies to Kate Stewart's present day. ''The Power of Three'' was the first time the Doctor had met her -- in '''his''' timestream. Kate is no dimwit & neither (in spite of the Doctor's frequent comments that he didn't understand time) was her father. If, in '''her''' timestream, she'd already met the Doctor before ''The Power of Three'', she'd know enough to avoid giving him "spoilers" by saying so. Even if she hadn't worked that out for herself (& she probably had), as soon as the Doctor realised, by encountering her at an earlier date, that they were meeting out of sequence, he would warn her about it. That means we can't assume that ''The Day of the Doctor'' was, for her, later than ''The Power of Three''. | |||
It very much looks as if the confusion is because the "present day" of Series 7 Part 2 is '''earlier''' in terms of the calendar than the "present day" of Series 7 Part 1. Confusing though that may be, it's not an inconsistency; it's just that "time travel is like that!" --[[Special:Contributions/89.243.203.248|89.243.203.248]]<sup>[[User talk:89.243.203.248#top|talk to me]]</sup> 15:13, June 18, 2014 (UTC) | |||