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When does it say that Caliburn House is located in London? | When does it say that Caliburn House is located in London? | ||
[[User:Geek Mythology|Geek Mythology]] [[User talk:Geek Mythology|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:48, April 20, 2013 (UTC) | [[User:Geek Mythology|Geek Mythology]] [[User talk:Geek Mythology|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:48, April 20, 2013 (UTC) | ||
* The TV listings here in Canada say it's on the moors somewhere. Were there moors in London in 1974? [[Special:Contributions/70.72.211.35|70.72.211.35]]<sup>[[User talk:70.72.211.35#top|talk to me]]</sup> 01:13, April 21, 2013 (UTC) | |||
**Not that I'm aware of. I don't live in London, I know there a few parks and big houses, but don't think there are any moors. Unless anyone can say where it says it was set in London, I'll remove that category.[[User:Geek Mythology|Geek Mythology]] [[User talk:Geek Mythology|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:43, April 22, 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Hila == | == Hila == | ||
What is the spelling of Hila's last name? Has anyone seen in in the close captions? [[Special:Contributions/78.9.3.121|78.9.3.121]]<sup>[[User talk:78.9.3.121#top|talk to me]]</sup> 20:51, April 20, 2013 (UTC) | What is the spelling of Hila's last name? Has anyone seen in in the close captions? [[Special:Contributions/78.9.3.121|78.9.3.121]]<sup>[[User talk:78.9.3.121#top|talk to me]]</sup> 20:51, April 20, 2013 (UTC) | ||
Yeah. It's "Hila Tacorian" in the iTunes closed captions. The closing credits simply give her as Hila, no last name, which is a bit odd since Palmer and Grayling were given. [[Special:Contributions/98.180.55.167|98.180.55.167]]<sup>[[User talk:98.180.55.167#top|talk to me]]</sup> 19:11, April 21, 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Coat rack == | |||
I made a change to the coat rack reference because one is clearly seen in the previous Eleventh Doctor TARDIS. I believe actually a coat rack is visible in every version of the TARDIS save the TV movie version. And, I guess, the current one. [[Special:Contributions/70.72.211.35|70.72.211.35]]<sup>[[User talk:70.72.211.35#top|talk to me]]</sup> 01:12, April 21, 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Errors == | |||
--Filming continuity error-- | |||
When The Doctor is talking about the empathic psychics, he picks up a bottle of milk with his right hand while gesturing with his left. Immediately after the camera cuts to a wider shot of The Doctor, mid-gesture and the bottle is now in his left hand which is gesturing. --[[User:Invictus152|Invictus152]] [[User talk:Invictus152|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:04, April 21, 2013 (UTC) | |||
When The Doctor is showing the slideshow, he uses the sonic to turn the projector on and he puts it in his pocket. Then when the slides start switching, we hear the sonic sound, yet when The Doctor moves toward the screen he takes the sonic out of his pocket.--[[User:Invictus152|Invictus152]] [[User talk:Invictus152|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:23, April 21, 2013 (UTC) | |||
There's a couple scenes when the Doctor is in the pocket universe where the footage seems mirrored as Smith's side parting appears on the wrong side of his head. [[Special:Contributions/86.31.191.204|86.31.191.204]]<sup>[[User talk:86.31.191.204#top|talk to me]]</sup> 15:32, April 21, 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Scenes cut? == | |||
Were scenes cut out of the U.S. version of this? What happened with Hila? Why was she called "Witch of the Well"? There's no well. | |||
The ending seems very abrupt and BBCAmerica has a habit of cutting off ending scenes and key bits in the middle, too. I wondered if viewers in the UK saw more than U.S. viewers did. | |||
:I believe that it was the "witch of the (time) Well" [[User:Roi Simcha|Roi Simcha]] [[User talk:Roi Simcha|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:22, April 22, 2013 (UTC) | |||
::On second viewing, the Doctor briefly mentions that the wormhole is also a "reality well". There is no logical reason though that people who encountered the ghost over the centuries would know about this kind of well so it is still a puzzling reference because there is no regular well on the property. [[Special:Contributions/63.143.218.107|63.143.218.107]]<sup>[[User talk:63.143.218.107#top|talk to me]]</sup> 20:17, April 28, 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Continuity problems == | |||
When the Doctor enters the pocket universe, through the wormhole, he ends up in the forest where he undoes his harness and starts to look for Hila. When he & Hila are trying to return, they are suddenly in the house and go into a room where the harness now is and she puts it on and is yanked back into 1974. How did the harness (and the wormhole) move? | |||
Also, when Clara goes to rescue the Doctor, the TARDIS travels to the pocket universe but returns to the house via the wormhole. Does she somehow travel to the house and enter the wormhole when she is traveling to the pocket universe? | |||
Finally, everything I've read says that traveling on the outside of the TARDIS through a wormhole would kill a person. The only person who successfully did this was [[Captain Jack]] who died but was revived because he was immortal. How come traveling through the wormhole, either by jumping in with the harness or holding on to the TARDIS, not kill the Doctor and Hila? [[Special:Contributions/63.143.218.107|63.143.218.107]]<sup>[[User talk:63.143.218.107#top|talk to me]]</sup> 20:14, April 28, 2013 (UTC) | |||
: I'm not sure about the first two, but with regard to your third point, it's not traveling through a wormhole unprotected that kills people; it's traveling through the time vortex. Granted, there was the wormhole in "Planet Of The Dead" that disintegrated anyone who crossed it, but wormholes may not all be identical to each other. Plus, the TARDIS may have projected a "bubble" around itself to keep the Doctor safe, like how it creates bubbles of air when the doors are open in space. I assume that it would not have done the same for Jack since it wanted him gone. [[User:Ensephylon|Ensephylon]] [[User talk:Ensephylon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:02, April 28, 2013 (UTC) | |||
:It's not the harness that moved it's the echo of the house that suddenly appeared around it. I believe Emma willed it into existence so the Doctor and Hila found the way to the portal. | |||
::The Doctor: An echo house, in an echo universe. Clever psychic. That is just top-notch. | |||
:Also, to answer your second question, it appears to me as if the TARDIS entered the pocket universe by the way of materializing there. She only needed to use wormhole on the way out because being in the pocket universe drained the energy from her heart. | |||
::TARDIS: The entropy would drain the energy from my heart. In four seconds, I'd be stranded. In ten, I'd be dead. | |||
:--[[User:LadyRomana|LadyRomana]] [[User talk:LadyRomana|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:20, May 23, 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Historical Error == | |||
Alec is using headphones. That weren't invented until 2002. Seems Legit.{{Unsigned-anon|27.32.122.196}} | |||
: See [[T:NO RW]]. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:24, July 11, 2013 (UTC) | |||
== "She's done this before" == | |||
I removed a line that was added to the comment about the TARDIS unlocking the doors for Clara. It's said that she's done this before and then cites Doctor's Wife. Aside from the fact Clara isn't in The Doctor's Wife, I know of no scene in that episode where she unlocks herself for anyone. The TARDIS appears to lock herself, but that's due to the Doctor remotely locking the door, and then House by that time has taken over the TARDIS and keeps it locked. There is no scene in which the TARDIS unlocks herself. It's possible this happens in another episode but I can't call any to mind that occur prior to Hide. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] [[User talk:23skidoo|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:56, September 8, 2014 (UTC) | |||
* I did, however, add a significant point that the episode reveals the TARDIS is perfectly capable of navigating autonomously, even into a pocket universe. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] [[User talk:23skidoo|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:59, September 8, 2014 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 14:59, 8 September 2014
Set in London[[edit source]]
When does it say that Caliburn House is located in London? Geek Mythology ☎ 20:48, April 20, 2013 (UTC)
- The TV listings here in Canada say it's on the moors somewhere. Were there moors in London in 1974? 70.72.211.35talk to me 01:13, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
- Not that I'm aware of. I don't live in London, I know there a few parks and big houses, but don't think there are any moors. Unless anyone can say where it says it was set in London, I'll remove that category.Geek Mythology ☎ 15:43, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
Hila[[edit source]]
What is the spelling of Hila's last name? Has anyone seen in in the close captions? 78.9.3.121talk to me 20:51, April 20, 2013 (UTC)
Yeah. It's "Hila Tacorian" in the iTunes closed captions. The closing credits simply give her as Hila, no last name, which is a bit odd since Palmer and Grayling were given. 98.180.55.167talk to me 19:11, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
Coat rack[[edit source]]
I made a change to the coat rack reference because one is clearly seen in the previous Eleventh Doctor TARDIS. I believe actually a coat rack is visible in every version of the TARDIS save the TV movie version. And, I guess, the current one. 70.72.211.35talk to me 01:12, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
Errors[[edit source]]
--Filming continuity error-- When The Doctor is talking about the empathic psychics, he picks up a bottle of milk with his right hand while gesturing with his left. Immediately after the camera cuts to a wider shot of The Doctor, mid-gesture and the bottle is now in his left hand which is gesturing. --Invictus152 ☎ 11:04, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
When The Doctor is showing the slideshow, he uses the sonic to turn the projector on and he puts it in his pocket. Then when the slides start switching, we hear the sonic sound, yet when The Doctor moves toward the screen he takes the sonic out of his pocket.--Invictus152 ☎ 11:23, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
There's a couple scenes when the Doctor is in the pocket universe where the footage seems mirrored as Smith's side parting appears on the wrong side of his head. 86.31.191.204talk to me 15:32, April 21, 2013 (UTC)
Scenes cut?[[edit source]]
Were scenes cut out of the U.S. version of this? What happened with Hila? Why was she called "Witch of the Well"? There's no well.
The ending seems very abrupt and BBCAmerica has a habit of cutting off ending scenes and key bits in the middle, too. I wondered if viewers in the UK saw more than U.S. viewers did.
- I believe that it was the "witch of the (time) Well" Roi Simcha ☎ 16:22, April 22, 2013 (UTC)
- On second viewing, the Doctor briefly mentions that the wormhole is also a "reality well". There is no logical reason though that people who encountered the ghost over the centuries would know about this kind of well so it is still a puzzling reference because there is no regular well on the property. 63.143.218.107talk to me 20:17, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
Continuity problems[[edit source]]
When the Doctor enters the pocket universe, through the wormhole, he ends up in the forest where he undoes his harness and starts to look for Hila. When he & Hila are trying to return, they are suddenly in the house and go into a room where the harness now is and she puts it on and is yanked back into 1974. How did the harness (and the wormhole) move?
Also, when Clara goes to rescue the Doctor, the TARDIS travels to the pocket universe but returns to the house via the wormhole. Does she somehow travel to the house and enter the wormhole when she is traveling to the pocket universe?
Finally, everything I've read says that traveling on the outside of the TARDIS through a wormhole would kill a person. The only person who successfully did this was Captain Jack who died but was revived because he was immortal. How come traveling through the wormhole, either by jumping in with the harness or holding on to the TARDIS, not kill the Doctor and Hila? 63.143.218.107talk to me 20:14, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about the first two, but with regard to your third point, it's not traveling through a wormhole unprotected that kills people; it's traveling through the time vortex. Granted, there was the wormhole in "Planet Of The Dead" that disintegrated anyone who crossed it, but wormholes may not all be identical to each other. Plus, the TARDIS may have projected a "bubble" around itself to keep the Doctor safe, like how it creates bubbles of air when the doors are open in space. I assume that it would not have done the same for Jack since it wanted him gone. Ensephylon ☎ 22:02, April 28, 2013 (UTC)
- It's not the harness that moved it's the echo of the house that suddenly appeared around it. I believe Emma willed it into existence so the Doctor and Hila found the way to the portal.
- The Doctor: An echo house, in an echo universe. Clever psychic. That is just top-notch.
- Also, to answer your second question, it appears to me as if the TARDIS entered the pocket universe by the way of materializing there. She only needed to use wormhole on the way out because being in the pocket universe drained the energy from her heart.
- TARDIS: The entropy would drain the energy from my heart. In four seconds, I'd be stranded. In ten, I'd be dead.
- --LadyRomana ☎ 19:20, May 23, 2013 (UTC)
Historical Error[[edit source]]
Alec is using headphones. That weren't invented until 2002. Seems Legit.– The preceding unsigned comment was added by 27.32.122.196 (talk).
- See T:NO RW. Shambala108 ☎ 14:24, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
"She's done this before"[[edit source]]
I removed a line that was added to the comment about the TARDIS unlocking the doors for Clara. It's said that she's done this before and then cites Doctor's Wife. Aside from the fact Clara isn't in The Doctor's Wife, I know of no scene in that episode where she unlocks herself for anyone. The TARDIS appears to lock herself, but that's due to the Doctor remotely locking the door, and then House by that time has taken over the TARDIS and keeps it locked. There is no scene in which the TARDIS unlocks herself. It's possible this happens in another episode but I can't call any to mind that occur prior to Hide. 23skidoo ☎ 14:56, September 8, 2014 (UTC)