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==Mentions?==
==Mentions?==
Can someone explain to me why the mention of the Headless Monks in Time of Angels has been removed? The user that originally removed the mention explicitly claimed they did not recall the mention as justification for removing it. After it being pointed out, they've then claimed that mentions aren't allowed. But as far as I can tell there are plenty of pages on this wiki with lists of mentions in the box ([[Dalek]] jumps out at me for instance). Am I missing some of this wiki's policy? - I have my own wiki to run, so I generally don't get overly caught up in others; but this seems a little bit of a weird procedure to me. [[User:Baziel|Baziel]] 18:47, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
Can someone explain to me why the mention of the Headless Monks in Time of Angels has been removed? The user that originally removed the mention explicitly claimed they did not recall the mention as justification for removing it. After it being pointed out, they've then claimed that mentions aren't allowed. But as far as I can tell there are plenty of pages on this wiki with lists of mentions in the box ([[Dalek]] jumps out at me for instance). Am I missing some of this wiki's policy? - I have my own wiki to run, so I generally don't get overly caught up in others; but this seems a little bit of a weird procedure to me. [[User:Baziel|Baziel]] 18:47, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
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Mentions are allowed. [[User:Bold Clone]] reverted the mention as he didn't recall it, and then again as there isn't actually a mentioned section '''in the infobox'''. The mention is still, well, mentioned in the article body.----<u>[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small></u> 19:09, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
Mentions are allowed. [[User:Bold Clone]] reverted the mention as he didn't recall it, and then again as there isn't actually a mentioned section '''in the infobox'''. The mention is still, well, mentioned in the article body.----<u>[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small></u> 19:09, June 20, 2011 (UTC)


Okay, so it's just some poor editor explanation then; thanks for clearing that up. -  Would I be right in assuming that the reason for not having a 'mentions' section in the infobox  (when they are in other pages) would be the relative 'lack of mentions' up to this point?  [[User:Baziel|Baziel]] 19:35, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
I think the mention in Time and Angels needs to be put up [[User:TheTrueDoc|TheTrueDoc]] <sup>[[User talk:TheTrueDoc|talk to me]]</sup> 17:35, November 1, 2011 (UTC)
:What was poor about my explanation? I removed the info because I wasn't sure if they had actually been mentioned. Then, after it was confirmed that they had been mentioned, I removed the info again because there wasn't a "mentioned" section. It seems to me that it was more like some poor double-checking of the facts--you didn't know that the template didn't have a "mentioned" section. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 19:41, June 20, 2011 (UTC)
 
I don't quite understand why the reference in the angels episode was not posted. The doctor says something like this is the final resting place of the headless monks. He does so while investigating the 'museum' with Amelia Pond.
 
== Name ==
"Headless Monk" is by far the most common reference, so we should move the page to that per [[T:NAMING]].  However, I wanted to see if anyone can give a precise (with time code) citation for "Order of the Headless", or whether there was some rationale for "Order of the Headless" over "Order of the Headless Monks".  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 15:04: Sun 07 Apr 2013</span>
:I don't have access to the DVD right now, but the phrase is used in the scene where the [[Fat One]] is to be "initiated". A voice says, "Welcome, applicant, to the order of the Headless." [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:38, April 8, 2013 (UTC)
 
::It happens as Shambala108 has quoted at 7:33. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 08:38, April 17, 2013 (UTC)
:I'd like to point out that "Headless Monk" and "Order of the Headless [Monks]" are two different things. The former refers to an individual, while the latter refers to the group. It seems that both pages should exist, each describing the appropriate thing, in the same way that there exist pages for both [[Silent]] and [[The Silence]].  Regardless, when I type Headless Monk into the search box, I absolutely expect there to be a page with that heading. [[User:Just another Bill|Just another Bill]] [[User talk:Just another Bill|<span title="Talk to me"></span>]] 21:26, September 17, 2013 (UTC)
 
Should monk be capitalised?--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 18:21, September 29, 2014 (UTC)

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Mentions?[[edit source]]

Can someone explain to me why the mention of the Headless Monks in Time of Angels has been removed? The user that originally removed the mention explicitly claimed they did not recall the mention as justification for removing it. After it being pointed out, they've then claimed that mentions aren't allowed. But as far as I can tell there are plenty of pages on this wiki with lists of mentions in the box (Dalek jumps out at me for instance). Am I missing some of this wiki's policy? - I have my own wiki to run, so I generally don't get overly caught up in others; but this seems a little bit of a weird procedure to me. Baziel 18:47, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Mentions are allowed. User:Bold Clone reverted the mention as he didn't recall it, and then again as there isn't actually a mentioned section in the infobox. The mention is still, well, mentioned in the article body.----Skittles the hog--Talk 19:09, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

I think the mention in Time and Angels needs to be put up TheTrueDoc talk to me 17:35, November 1, 2011 (UTC)

I don't quite understand why the reference in the angels episode was not posted. The doctor says something like this is the final resting place of the headless monks. He does so while investigating the 'museum' with Amelia Pond.

Name[[edit source]]

"Headless Monk" is by far the most common reference, so we should move the page to that per T:NAMING. However, I wanted to see if anyone can give a precise (with time code) citation for "Order of the Headless", or whether there was some rationale for "Order of the Headless" over "Order of the Headless Monks".
czechout<staff />    15:04: Sun 07 Apr 2013

I don't have access to the DVD right now, but the phrase is used in the scene where the Fat One is to be "initiated". A voice says, "Welcome, applicant, to the order of the Headless." Shambala108 03:38, April 8, 2013 (UTC)
It happens as Shambala108 has quoted at 7:33. --Tangerineduel / talk 08:38, April 17, 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to point out that "Headless Monk" and "Order of the Headless [Monks]" are two different things. The former refers to an individual, while the latter refers to the group. It seems that both pages should exist, each describing the appropriate thing, in the same way that there exist pages for both Silent and The Silence. Regardless, when I type Headless Monk into the search box, I absolutely expect there to be a page with that heading. Just another Bill 21:26, September 17, 2013 (UTC)

Should monk be capitalised?--Skittles the hog - talk 18:21, September 29, 2014 (UTC)