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== The name "River Song" ==
== The name "River Song" ==


Is this correct? '''Amy bestowed her maiden name, Pond on her daughter, opining that "Melody Williams" sounded like a geography teacher, whereas "Melody Pond" was the name for a superhero. In the end, she would be essentially both, albeit under a modified name''' This refers to the use of "River Song" which, as far as I can figure, is still "Melody Pond" but corrupted by translation to and back from the language of the Gamma Forests as mentioned in the next few sentences of this entry.
Is this correct? '''Amy bestowed her maiden name, Pond on her daughter, opining that "Melody Williams" sounded like a geography teacher, whereas "Melody Pond" was the name for a superhero. In the end, she would be essentially both, albeit under a modified name''' This refers to the use of "River Song" which, as far as I can figure, is still "Melody Pond" but corrupted by translation to and back from the language of the Gamma Forests as mentioned in the next few sentences of this entry. {{Unsigned|Granville4879}}

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The mother-in-law

Since the legality of the marriage between Eleven and River is very much in doubt, isn't it dubious to call her — especially in the lead — the Doctor's mother-in-law. She may very well be no such damned thing.
czechout<staff />    16:40: Tue 25 Sep 2012

  • It has been stated on the show twice, though. She says it herself in The Wedding of River Song, and the Doctor says he's married in the Asylum of the Daleks prequel... d · 16:47, September 25, 2012 (UTC)
River calls him "husband" in Angels Take Manhattan as well. -- Tybort (talk page) 19:07, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

On another "mother-in-law" front, I seriously think it's pushing it to say that she's Liz I's mother in law. 1) Amy was already married, voiding the marriage to Henry, and 2) we have no information about the legality of E marriage of Liz I and the Tenth Doctor. He could have faked it, she could have annulled it, she didn't appear to consider them married and he definitely does not. I think that line needs either to go or it needs to be significantly lessened in declarative strength.--ComicBookGoddess 10:38, March 22, 2013 (UTC)

The Henri VIII Story

In "A Twon Called Mercy", Rory mentionned the Doctor leaving his phone charger in Henry VIII's suite. This event is depicted in the following story, "The Power of Three". in order to keep a chronological timeline, I moved the little synopsis of ATCM in the middle of the TPOT synopsis. Anyone who doesn't agree with this, feel free to undo changes. Chapeltok 08:51, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

There's not really enough in The Power of Three to say that the charger incident is definitively connected to when Amy marries Henry VIII. The Eleventh Doctor's visited 1938 like three times after all. -- Tybort (talk page) 23:15, October 4, 2012 (UTC)

Third Scots regular

I know I've read somewhere that the Brigadier is of Scottish descent (I think Terror of the Zygons may have been the source, though I haven't watched it), but is that enough to call him a Scot? -- Tybort (talk page) 19:06, October 5, 2012 (UTC)

You're questioning the Scots credentials of a man with the name Stewart? Brave man, you are. Suffice it to say that both his first and last appearances firmly establish him as a "practising" Scot. From Zygons:
SJS: I didn't expect to see you in a kilt.
BRIG: My dear Miss Smith, my name is Lethbridge-Stewart. The clan Stewart.
SJS: Sorry, I thought you were doing a Doctor (referencing the Doc's faux Scots garb)
BRIG: What an absurd idea.
That's a pretty Scots cap
Also, costuming in The Web of Fear gives him a cap with a clear Tartan pattern on it. Dialogue doesn't say he's from a Scots regiment, but it doesn't really need to, in light of the cap.
I'm sure there's also plenty of evidence from other media. The Warkeeper's Crown, as I recall, stresses his lineage with emphasis on older members of his family that he would have personally met as a child. So it's not distant Scots ancestry. I'm sure there are books which characterise him as a Scot, too, but I don't have those citations to hand. I think he's actually meant to be born in Scotland, but ended up with an RP accent simply because of his military education down south. Again, though, I don't have a citation readily to hand for that.
But Web and Terror give us ample evidence to say that Amy is very definitely the third televised regular Scot.
czechout<staff />    03:51: Tue 30 Oct 2012
Oh yeah! There's also the fabulous way Terror of the Zygons ends. Since you've not seen it yet, I'm loathe to spoil it for you. But the last word of the script, applied to the Brig, is "Scotsman".
czechout<staff />    04:13: Tue 30 Oct 2012

Year of Death

I don't think we have enough information to really determine the year of death for Amy or Rory. Doing so involved too many assumptions - exactly when they were sent back to, their exact ages at the time that happened, whether or not those ages were accurately recorded (or reported) once they got there, even the time of year they actually died in, etc. Spreee 19:51, October 13, 2012 (UTC)Spreee

Craig

The Amy Pond page reference Craig Owens being in only one episode - he was in two. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.177.43.72 (talk).

Amy Pond Peg Doll

Just wondering if we could create an article on the Peg Doll version or maybe just add a photo

I find Peg Doll Amy creepily brilliant The preceding unsigned comment was added by BigCatFan (talk • contribs) .

How gone IS Amy?

In "The Bells Of Saint John" there is a book that Oswin see's a character of in real life. On the book it shows a group of people which can easily be wiped away under the bed as if it were no big deal, which it isn't, EXCEPT for one disturbing "thingy" on the books front cover. It's author. The author of the book is Amelia Willaims. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM... How "gone" is she now?

Please sign your posts. She's not even two stories gone, she's waving at her family through history. Still doesn't mean the Doctor can see her without ripping a hole in reality.--ComicBookGoddess 01:54, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

Clare Corbett?

Clare Corbett is listed as the main voice actor for Amy, but her page says she only voiced two characters (neither of them Amy) and read multiple audio releases which did feature Amy, but it doesn't sound like she's voicing the specific character of Amy, just narrating stories that Amy is in. I don't think that makes her a voice actor for Amy, unless there's some missing information on Corbett's page. Mewiet 10:26, February 26, 2014 (UTC)

I took it down for now. If she does actually voice Amy somewhere, then it can be re-added (and included on Corbett's page). Shambala108 14:10, February 26, 2014 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure she does specifically voice Amy in The Hounds of Artemis, which, you're right, is not even mentioned on her page. That one's less of a her-reading-for-everyone situation, and more of one closely resembling The Companion Chronicles, wherein two actors play mainly two charactersm but also others here and there. Matt Smith plays the Doctor plus any male characters, and she plays Amy plus any female.
--SOTO (/\) 04:11, March 11, 2014 (UTC)

Henry VIII: "Spouse"

Why is Henry VIII listed as Amy's spouse? This is the dialogue for the scene:

Amy: Somebody was talking and I just said yes.
Rory: To wedding vows! You just married Henry VIII on our anniversary.

They were there for Henry VIII's wedding to someone else and Amy, absently overhearing someone talking, just said the word "yes." That does not constitute a ceremony or legal agreement, especially when the words weren't even directed at her, she's never referred to as Henry VIII's wife unless Rory's line is stretched to be taken as something other than a verbal jab to the ribs, and there's no evidence Amy or Henry VIII consider Amy's "yes" to be legally/religiously/culturally/ceremonially/morally binding. Mewiet 04:55, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

I haven't seen the episode but I have to agree. Moffat and company are fond of writing cutsie little things that some people take a bit too seriously. I know T:NO RW applies, but how can Amy be married to someone (Henry) when she's already legally married to Rory? At any rate, going by infobox standards, it's a minor blip in one episode that doesn't really rate being in the infobox. Shambala108 13:32, September 22, 2014 (UTC)

Death in Heaven

Given that we have absolutely no narrative evidence to state that Amy was one of the Cyber-converted individuals in Death in Heaven, why was this mentioned as fact on the page? I've reverted it for now, but I'll need to check and make sure this doesn't pop up later. Bwburke94 ~ Creator of All Things Brilliant! ~ 05:48, November 10, 2014 (UTC)

Well seeing that Amy was buried on Earth, and that all humans up 'till the events of Death in Heaven have been converted into Cybermen (as said in the episode), I think it is safe to assume that she must have been among the Cybermen. It isn't really important, but I don't think it's incorrect to say so. --Wickle Fwickle 05:50, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

A more general look at this question can be found at Thread:165490, if you want to take a look.--Skittles the hog - talk 10:01, November 16, 2014 (UTC)

The name "River Song"

Is this correct? Amy bestowed her maiden name, Pond on her daughter, opining that "Melody Williams" sounded like a geography teacher, whereas "Melody Pond" was the name for a superhero. In the end, she would be essentially both, albeit under a modified name This refers to the use of "River Song" which, as far as I can figure, is still "Melody Pond" but corrupted by translation to and back from the language of the Gamma Forests as mentioned in the next few sentences of this entry. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Granville4879 (talk • contribs) .