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I think the implication of the story is that the Doctor had forced Strax to be a nurse rather than the Sontaran military.
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- i dont really like wahty that implies
== strax first appearance is wrong ==


i just re watched the sontaran stratagem and strax appears in it {{Unsigned-anon|71.29.175.57}}
: No, Dan Starkey played several different Sontaran characters before ''A Good Man Goes to War'' (along with Commander [[Skarr]] in ''The Time of the Doctor''), similar to how Neve McIntosh played the Silurians [[Alaya]] and [[Restac]] in ''The Hungry Earth'' and ''Cold Blood'' before being cast as Madame [[Vastra]]. Strax is also native to the year [[4037]] (and presumably would have been born around 4025), over 2000 years after ''The Sontaran Stratagem'' is set. Dan is credited as Commander [[Skorr]] in the credits of ''The Sontaran Stratagem''. -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 14:36, February 22, 2015 (UTC)


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Can we add that perhaps strax was rather resigned to his position based on his last words?
Personally, I think Strax's personality section is far, far too long for someone who has only appeared in 5 episodes to date. It contains a lot of unnecessary information that belong in the 'Biography' and 'Abilities' sections. If anyone disagrees, please reply as feedback could not be more welcome.[[User:Joe Devaney|Joe Devaney]] [[User talk:Joe Devaney|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:53, March 20, 2015 (UTC)
 
I interpreted that a little differently - Rory was trying to convince him that he'd pull through and Strax's reply also suggested that, as a nurse, he knew Rory was lying to him. [[Special:Contributions/109.156.201.108|109.156.201.108]]<sup>[[User talk:109.156.201.108#top|talk to me]]</sup> 21:10, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
 
 
== Series 7 ==
It has been confirmed that strax is in series 7, it should be noted here, it is currently unknown if he somehow survived demon's run, or if this will portray an earlier meeting with the doctor from his point of view.
 
== [[The Great Detective (TV story)]] ==
Should we make separate pages for the Straux's of [[A Good Man Goes to War (TV story)]] and [[The Great Detective (TV story)]], sense they are obviously separate clones? [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 21:39, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
:Are we sure of that? I actually assume that (at least for Strax, if not also for Vastra and Jenny) this takes place before AGMGTW. [[Special:Contributions/78.8.240.65|78.8.240.65]]<sup>[[User talk:78.8.240.65#top|talk to me]]</sup> 22:18, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
::Speculation. It's most likely that this new Strax is an unrelated clone, as GMG2W Strax said he had many clones. Besides, Strax lived in the future. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 22:24, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
:::It's a time travel show, we don't know if he ''only'' lived in the future. And him being a clone is just as much speculation. Let's just wait for ''Snowmen'', which will likely explain it. Sontaran clones we've seen usually tend to have different names. [[Special:Contributions/78.8.240.65|78.8.240.65]]<sup>[[User talk:78.8.240.65#top|talk to me]]</sup> 22:29, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
::::Agreed, In ''Good Man'' it is stated that Strax owes the Doctor a debt. Knowing Moffat they are most likely referring to what will happen in ''The Snowmwen''. Wibbly Wobbly, remember! [[User:Geek Mythology|Geek Mythology]] [[User talk:Geek Mythology|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:36, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
:Yeah, that's great. Let's just wait until Christmas. No, we need to decide how to deal with this until now. They are definetly diffrent clones. That's what ''AGMGTW'' and ''TGD'' suggest together. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 22:38, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
:::::We do not need to decide now either way. It is best to wait until the full episode. As "Great Detective" shows Strax in a subservient role, personally I would consider him to be the same, but I have changed the page to note the uncertainty. [[User:Geek Mythology|Geek Mythology]] [[User talk:Geek Mythology|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:54, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
 
:::::: The page is staying as it is. Full stop. It will contain information for ''Good Man'' and ''Detective'' unless a future episode states that they are clones. Until then it is just speculation. Any attempt to rename the page will result in the page locked from moving. [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 23:16, November 16, 2012 (UTC)
 
::::::: That's fine, and probably really the best choice, but I'm moving it to below the original narrative. The fact isn't that calling him a clone is speculatory, it's that deciding if he is a clone or not is. May I remind you that in ''[[A Good Man Goes to War (TV story)]]'' Strax says he has many clones all over the universe. The Doctor replies with something like "Straxs. All over the universe." So basically both that he is from before AGMGTW and the fact that he is a clone are likely. So trying to pick which one it is is the true speculation at this point. Best to leave ambiguous. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 02:07, November 17, 2012 (UTC)
 
:Just looked on the official BBC website, and noticed they mention "the return of Strax", and "lizards, Victorian assassins and deranged warriors from the future all return" which to me are good indicators that it is the same Strax and not a clone. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/articles/Steven-Moffat-and-Matt-Smith-on-the-Doctor-Who-Christmas-Special) [[User:Geek Mythology|Geek Mythology]] [[User talk:Geek Mythology|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:05, November 17, 2012 (UTC)

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strax first appearance is wrong[[edit source]]

i just re watched the sontaran stratagem and strax appears in it The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.29.175.57 (talk).

No, Dan Starkey played several different Sontaran characters before A Good Man Goes to War (along with Commander Skarr in The Time of the Doctor), similar to how Neve McIntosh played the Silurians Alaya and Restac in The Hungry Earth and Cold Blood before being cast as Madame Vastra. Strax is also native to the year 4037 (and presumably would have been born around 4025), over 2000 years after The Sontaran Stratagem is set. Dan is credited as Commander Skorr in the credits of The Sontaran Stratagem. -- Tybort (talk page) 14:36, February 22, 2015 (UTC)

Unnecessary information[[edit source]]

Personally, I think Strax's personality section is far, far too long for someone who has only appeared in 5 episodes to date. It contains a lot of unnecessary information that belong in the 'Biography' and 'Abilities' sections. If anyone disagrees, please reply as feedback could not be more welcome.Joe Devaney 16:53, March 20, 2015 (UTC)