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-Because the Nightmare Child was mentioned yet again in The End of Time, it raises the question: what is it? But this time the Doctor appeared a bit more... frightenved when mentioning it. He spoke of it as if it was one of the biggest, baddest, mnost evil things out there. Even its name really creeps me out, sounds pretty weird/creepy/sinister, in my opinion.
+Because the Nightmare Child was mentioned yet again in The End of Time, it raises the question: what is it? But this time the Doctor appeared a bit more... frightened when mentioning it. He spoke of it as if it was one of the biggest, baddest, most evil things out there. Even its name really creeps me out, sounds pretty weird/creepy/sinister, in my opinion.
 By what it is, I mean by what form is it? Is it an entity, a monster, something else? The Doctor had always described it as something not nice at all. But the name is damn creepy. [[User:Delton Menace|Delton Menace]] 17:12, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
+The Doctor seemed to be scared of the things in the time war and what scares the doctor the most... somthing that just kills. In my mind the nightmare child is a white skinned demon with flesh rotting and falling off it's black bones with a face like The Beast in The Satan Pit. The nightmare child also does not care about good or evil it simply kills everything and its large enough to grab a small comand ship out of the sky and eat it so I'd say 700 ft esily. Lutennant Vell the jugde. 6:15, oct 26, 2010
 I think it's Paris Hilton when she was younger. [[User:The evil dude|The evil dude]][[User:The evil dude|.]] 17:29, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
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 :I'm just surprised that nobody has yet speculated that it's the Midnight entity. :) --[[Special:Contributions/99.157.75.211|99.157.75.211]] 02:13, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
+I would imagine it would resemble a child, but would be a giant monster, about the size of a building.
 Because the Midnight entity is incorperal, and the Nightmare Child is described as having been something corperal: they knew it was male, they mentioned jaws, they could see it. They mentioned "his emtpire." It sounds like the Nightmare Child may have been a huge, demonic monster, or something.
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 OR it could be something the Time Lords made possibly with the help of the Master (as he was bred for war) and it could have gone out of control. [[User:DalekVictor554|DalekVictor554]] 08:59, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
+if we were told what it was or looked like it would spoil it lots of thing about the time war.
+i think that it hasnt been described becauses it is something too terible for the human mind to concieve, (like one of the previous posts said) born in the fires of war, pain, suffering and hate, literaly the child of nightmares.[[Special:Contributions/217.23.232.194|217.23.232.194]] 09:07, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
+A rupture in the fabric of reality due to the all the paradoxes produced by both the Daleks and Timelords through their time manipulations and time travelling within the Time War. Like a crack of some sort.
+I don't think it's very likely that it's a literal animate creature...as the Doctor said Davros' ship flew into the jaws of Nightmare Child, people usually don't fly into an animate creature....and it's a pretty odd image to conjure up.
+If we are lazy...the stuffs the Doctor mentioned could pretty much just be abstract labels of normal stuff we expected out of a Time War:
+*the Army of Meanwhiles and Neverweres: People (possibly only Daleks due to the Master's stance) erased in the Time War due to time manipulation on both side as said in The End of Time...or more abstractly, just people trapped in the Time War (since they can no longer affect other time periods, so they are sort separated from the current timeline of the Doctor and the Master)
+*the Could've Been King: The could've been victor of the War (possibly Dalek Emperor due the Master's stance)
+*the Horde of Travesties: Just bad stuffs in general that costed many lives during the War
+*the Skaro Degradations: what it says literally, since we know Skaro is ruined...
+Moreover, we know how bloody fragile Timelord technology is: blow a TARDIS, the Universe collapse; random stuff for meaningless rituals is actually a superpowerful random stuff that can destroy the Universe and rip open realities (something like that); and creating a superprison that would be opened if any timetraveller touched it despite that Davros or other parties may want to release Daleks. The Daleks are not any better: progenitor machine that have the intelligence of accepting testimony from a deceitful enemy but not good enough to automatically generate Daleks when the Dalek race is about to extinct; control panels that could disable or control all Daleks are always placed in a location convenient to the enemies and made so that Doctor/DoctorDonna could operate it; and make a reality bomb because they have too much time on their hands...sorry, I mean plungers (come on, if you have enough time to steal planets across all of time and space then you probably have enough time to just invade the Universe...especially when you know that the Doctor will come across one of these missing planets at some point because he also has too much time on hand, and you bloody stole Earth, the planet that he is always on). With these two races: one is igorant, the other is idiotic, and both equally reckless, they are bound to create something catastrophic...I mean look at Gallifrey, the Doctor thinks it's beautiful, EEA and UNEP people would probably get heart attacks if they see what the planet look like. --[[Special:Contributions/203.168.176.42|203.168.176.42]] 13:12, July 27, 2010 (UTC)
+I think the nightmare child was a timelord(or other faction) super ship, (somewhat like a vorlon planet crusher), and the whole "devros" flying into its jaws was akin to the crucible attempting to take it out while it was firing its primary weapon (like in independence day, where they took down the ships by destroying the main weapon as they fire) but failed and was obliterated. The whole "birth" of the nightmare child could've just been in reference to the construction of a vessel so powerful, as the time lords are supposed to be a peaceful race. The whole army of meanwhiles and neverwheres could just be timelord soilders, recall the council members did say that at the very heart of the time war people were dieing, and being revived only to die in another more dire way, these "people" would of course have been driven mad by the constant war. also the Master ran from the time war before the Nightmare child was introduced so i doubt he had any involvement in its creation/construction/or birth... As for the creature from midnight, it had to be somewhat corporal as it managed to rip off the entire front section of the train.
+whatever it is, it was probably way bigger than a dalek command ship(which is most likely very big) to be able to enter its jaws [[User:Sclera1|Sclera1]] 13:33, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
+A possiblitiy is that: we don't know all of the factions in the Time War. Someone mentioned earlier that it sounded 'Cthulu'. We know that there are cthulu-like monsters in Doctor Who.
+plausibly, the Time Lords during the Time War could have attempted to circumvent their reproductive issues, creating for themselves the children they wished they had been able to have; and that unwise effort spawned something horrible beyond all imagining. --AleXM 09:59, December 5, 2010
+There isn't an episode that suggests that timelords can't reproduce, and the fact that they only have 12 regenerations, and didn't go extinct before the time war proves that they can reproduce. Even if they couldn't, that is not something that they would be worrying about during the timewar, since they could bring people back to life to fight in it anyway, without waiting for them to grow up. If the timelords did create the nightmare child, than they meant for it to be some kind of monster, or whatever it was, so that they could use it against the Daleks.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 00:25, December 7, 2010 (UTC)
+it might be the devil himself that the timelords somehow released
+The Nightmare child wasn't featured in the day of the doctor so i don't know