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<!-- Please put your content under this line. Be sure to sign your edits with four tildes ~~~~ -->The Sarah Jane Adventures have been on the BBC iplayer lately, and I've noticed that a lot of the articles for the episodes are stubs and in need of cleanups. A lot of them don't correctly place references, continuity and story notes in the correct sections, and the plots are very undetailed. I know that I've been criticised before for the length of my writing plots, but [[The Temptation of Sarah Jane Smith]] actually started with the plot ''half way through the episode'', summing up the time before with a quick "which they discovered earlier". | <!-- Please put your content under this line. Be sure to sign your edits with four tildes ~~~~ -->The Sarah Jane Adventures have been on the BBC iplayer lately, and I've noticed that a lot of the articles for the episodes are stubs and in need of cleanups. A lot of them don't correctly place references, continuity and story notes in the correct sections, and the plots are very undetailed. I know that I've been criticised before for the length of my writing plots, but [[The Temptation of Sarah Jane Smith]] actually started with the plot ''half way through the episode'', summing up the time before with a quick "which they discovered earlier". | ||
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::::The thing is, if we spread it across the six pages, I don't think we'd need that. TW and SJA are less watched, so there will be less editors, even with the community project. We generally get on fine with DW pages, like the series 5 one without many problems. None of the pages need ''major'' overhalls, so it is unlikely that a person would take longer than a few minutes to add an edit. And isn't there already a template for that? I'm sure there is, cause I saw it on a page before, though it wasn't actually being edited at the time. --[[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 18:32, July 29, 2010 (UTC) | ::::The thing is, if we spread it across the six pages, I don't think we'd need that. TW and SJA are less watched, so there will be less editors, even with the community project. We generally get on fine with DW pages, like the series 5 one without many problems. None of the pages need ''major'' overhalls, so it is unlikely that a person would take longer than a few minutes to add an edit. And isn't there already a template for that? I'm sure there is, cause I saw it on a page before, though it wasn't actually being edited at the time. --[[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 18:32, July 29, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::::Yep, the template is the [[Template:Inuse|<nowiki>{{inuse}}</nowiki>]] template. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 14:38, July 30, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::::We need to do something about the articles stub, not just the TV ones, but the species, audio, prose and the general article stubs. If we could have a box on the home page, above the Quotes of the Week, we could have a daily article (or articles) that are stubs, and a caption saying - ''Can you help to improve this page?'' or ''Can you help us to improve these pages'' [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]] 18:18, July 31, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Well we're all agreed that something needs to be done. We know people will hardly ever look for the pages that tell you which need cleanups, which need updating etc... Humans are just too lazy that way, they need to have it easily available before they do anything about it. | |||
:::::::One thing I've noticed is that on the main page, the newest audio/comics/magazines are shown. If we can shift them slightly to the left or right, we could easily fit in another few pictures in each section. Add a divider and we could list the weekly comic/magazine/audio that needs updating, next to the relevant section for those who listen to audios, read the magazines and comics more, and of course the same for the TV bit. | |||
:::::::Unless what we do is just have a brand new section on the main page. It might be good to put it ''above'' the "latest" sections. If they have to pass it to get to the latest ones (which will get enough attention as it is) they will be more likely to click and help in the needed ones. | |||
:::::::We just need to put it somewhere where the majority of people for each type of media will see it, which is most probably on the main page. How about we draw up some images to show our ideas, then we can discuss it further. That is assuming everyone is agreed this thing is going ahead? --[[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 18:39, August 1, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Something like this? | |||
Articles we need updating: | |||
*Audio:''[[The Guardian of the Solar System]]'' | |||
*Books:''[[Judoon Monsoon]]'' | |||
*Comic:''[[Planet Bollywood]] | |||
*Television:''[[Eye of the Gorgon]]'' | |||
*Character:''[[Bowman]]'' | |||
*Astronomical:''[[Dust (short story)|Dust]]'' | |||
*General:''[[Cult]]'' | |||
''To suggest a '''Article that need of improving''' for next week see '''Tardis:Articles needing improving.''' <!--DON'T CHANGE ANYTHING AFTER THIS POINT --> <small> [http://tardis.wikia.com/index.php?title=Template:Doctor_Who_Wiki/Help&action=edit ✍]</small><br> | |||
::Stubs would then become a category called '''Articles in need of improving''' - this would be links of the main page, and all articles that are in need of improved (stubs) listed in their categories. We would then ask people to vote comment on what ones they want improving. [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]] 20:00, August 1, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:::Something like that on the main page, yeah. As for voting, would that not make extra work? Is there any way where it can automatically take the page with the highest traffic (or highest number of revisions which is usually more visited) from the list of pages with that template, then put that page onto the correct section on the main page? --[[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 19:06, August 1, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::::I think the Did you know section could be re-purposed to suit this function; [[Template:Doctor Who Wiki/DYK]]. I don't think we need to re-name it or anything, use the space/format that it's allowed for. That should give enough space and prominence on the main page without needing to re-work the spacing on the main page or a new template for the main page. | |||
::::Must we really create ''another'' category when we've already got [[:Category:Articles in need of major additions]] and the stub categories? | |||
::::I agree on the voting creating extra work, we don't need to institute voting for what is essentially part of the wiki creation process or a maintenance process. | |||
::::It just needs a lead that reads something like this; "These articles are picked out of a pool by a regular contributor with the aim to improve the wiki." Or something like that, it's just like the [[Tardis:To Do List]]s or like the [[Tardis:BFA To-do List]] which was worked out by a group of users and worked through the articles as a group, without the need for voting. What we're doing now is the important part of the process, the discussion about how we're going to put this together to improve the wiki. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 16:47, August 3, 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Rekindling== | |||
Is there any way we can continue this discussion so we can get this project going? --[[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 13:41, August 28, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Yes, I am in the process of working on a copy of the DYK box (and backflipping in the process) of creating a space based on it, rather than appropriating it. I've got one or two other projects in the works, but it's near the top of my list, once it's done I'll work on the frame work and a basic page to wrap all these ideas into one thing. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 14:14, August 28, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Alrighty this has been done, see [[Tardis:Articles that need updating policy]] and '''Template:Doctor Who Wiki/Articles that need updating'''. I've tested it on the main page and then undone my edit, the undone edit can be re-done if there's no issues with both the policy and the template page. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 14:12, September 3, 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Archivist's notes== | |||
I'm closing this as "out of date", because it's not currently being used. It was, however, once in active use, and I suppose it could be used again one day. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''18:01:35 Thu '''26 May 2011 </span> | |||
:Actually this isn't really around anymore. The thing that was originally Doctor Who Wiki/Articles that need updating is now [[Doctor Who Wiki/Help]], and it's all an automated process of pointing out certain classes of articles that belong to sub categories of [[:category:Maintenance]]. So this thread describes something that actually doesn't exist at all anymore. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}19:40: Tue 11 Oct 2011 </span> |