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 :::I will happily wait for Amorkuz to see this and respond before restoring the speedy rename, but, given that this debate was all based on a misapprehension, the speedy rename tag is far from mistaken in its use. [[User:RogerAckroydLives|RogerAckroydLives]] [[User talk:RogerAckroydLives|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:38, May 5, 2016 (UTC)
+:::: First of all, I must apologise. I misunderstood RogerAckroydLives's statement about the cover. Since he started with the cover presented in the Vortex, I thought that this was his primary source. Surely, the Vortex should be secondary to both the physical release and the download release. So the misapprehension was that I was not sure the physical release features a different cover. However, as I wrote above, the fact that it does still does not resolve the issue completely.
+:::: And I am starting to think that this issue is not localised to this release, so an official policy would be nice. Thus, I agree that starting a thread in Panopticon is the best solution.
+:::: For me, this is not a question of an early cover vs. final cover. I believe, what we're dealing with is alternative covers, both (all three?) authorised by the production company. The physical release cover is present on the CD and in the Vortex. (Incidentally, I would appreciate it if RogerAckroydLives could upload it to the page so that all the covers are present with clear captions. That would help others to make sense of what we are discussing.) The download cover is the one present on the BF website as of today, in the downloadable zip, and on the news page announcing the release on the day of the release [https://www.bigfinish.com/news/v/jago-litefoot-strax] (where the title of the story is stated as ''Jago & Litefoot & Strax'').
+:::: In my view, if it is possible to buy a product with a particular cover, it is one of the final covers. So then one needs to determine which cover takes precedence, which would be a matter of policy to be created. RogerAckroydLives says that this situation is, unfortunately, widespread.
+:::: There are several precedents here. Unfortunately, they are partially contradictory/undecisive. One maxima (see [[T:CASTCREW]]) is to use the earliest release (transmission) as the primary. This would sometimes give primality to the download (as in ''River Song Diary'' case) but in most cases, including this one I think, would equate the two as the download is usually made available simultaneously with mailing the CDs, which is the determining date.
+:::: Secondly, perhaps based on our discussion about the difference in the cast lists between CDs and download, [[User:SOTO|SOTO]] has recently amended [[T:CAST]] to emphasise the primality of CD releases with respect to casts. (I only learned about this amendment today, and it might change my position on this particular renaming.) There the situation is clear: the CD cast list is more complete than the download one.
+:::: Here, however, we have contradictory covers/titles on alternative simultaneous releases. So I do believe it would be best to create a policy regarding such cases. Would RogerAckroydLives like to do the honours of beginning a thread on Panopticon? If not, I would do it tonight.
+:::: PS. By the way, I think we both learned something new in this discussion. It would be good if this new knowledge is recorded in the '''Notes''' section so that other people know it too, similar to ''[[Voyage to Venus (audio story)|Voyage to Venus]]''. Not having access to the physical covers (not all of them at least), I would prefer not to do it myself though. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:06, May 5, 2016 (UTC)