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:I think you are injecting a personal bias toward something you know, rather than provable facts. Pixar was not the first computer animated films, nor did they originate 3D animated films. --[[User:Buckimion|Buckimion]] [[User talk:Buckimion|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:43, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
:I think you are injecting a personal bias toward something you know, rather than provable facts. Pixar was not the first computer animated films, nor did they originate 3D animated films. --[[User:Buckimion|Buckimion]] [[User talk:Buckimion|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:43, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
::Furthering Buckimion's point, Pixar was not the first with strides in the area of Animation. As you said Geek, "pixar aren't the only ones to reference A113", seeing this I do not think it would be appropriate to reference Pixar specifically, as there was no evidence of a 'hat's off' directly to them. <div style="display:inline-block;background-color:#555; font:18px/1.5 Frutiger, 'Frutiger Linotype', Univers, Calibri, 'Gill Sans', 'Gill Sans MT', 'Myriad Pro', Myriad, 'DejaVu Sans Condensed', 'Liberation Sans', 'Nimbus Sans L', Tahoma, Geneva, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; border:1px solid #ccc; border:1px solid rgba(192,192,192,0.5); background-color:rgba(64,64,64,.85); color:#d5d4d4; border-radius:1em; box-shadow:0 0 35px -15px #fff;"><span style="border-right:2px solid #d5d4d4;border-radius:1em;padding:0 8px;"><span title="Click here" class="mw-customtoggle-Vuh" style="cursor:help;">'''JPhil2.0'''</span></span><span style="display:none;padding:0 4px;border-right:2px solid #d5d4d4;" class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" id="mw-customcollapsible-Vuh">[[User:JPhil2.0|<span style="color:#d5d4d4">Profile</span>]]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;[[User talk:JPhil2.0|<span title="Message Wall" style="color:#d5d4d4">Talk to me</span>]]&nbsp;&bull;&nbsp;[[w:c:musiciansguide|<span title="Feel the rhythm" style="color:#d5d4d4">MG</span>]]</span><span style="padding:0 8px">'''13:12:34 Sat'''&nbsp;25 Oct 2014</span></div>
:::However, no one is claiming that this is included because Pixar originated anything or that this a direct nod to Pixar. But Pixar is well known for being tied to A113, as is director Brad Bird in particular. This should be noted. [[User:Monkey with a Gun|Monkey with a Gun]] [[User talk:Monkey with a Gun|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:32, October 29, 2014 (UTC)
::::You are making an assumption that "everyone knows." Stick to provable facts, not a random statement. --[[User:Buckimion|Buckimion]] [[User talk:Buckimion|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:37, October 29, 2014 (UTC)
Ok, fair enough that we should stick to what we factually know, rather than speculate, and we cannot know the programme makers intnetions with the reference. Just to clarify my intentions though, in terms of Pixar originating 3d animation, although pixar as a company technically didn't, it was founded by those who who first iniated it (john lasseter etc) and were responsible for the first use of  computer animation in a feature film, the genesis clip in wrath of khan. In addition to this is obviously toy story, the first ever fully 3d cgi animated feature film. [[User:Geek Mythology|Geek Mythology]] [[User talk:Geek Mythology|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:47, October 29, 2014 (UTC)
: Nothing in the entry says it is a reference, but does point out the significance of the number so that the reader may draw their own conclusions. The objection is the attempt to forward an opinion that Pixar is the most well-known of those references (It certainly was not where I encountered it for the first time.) without any evidence whatsoever. --[[User:Buckimion|Buckimion]] [[User talk:Buckimion|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:55, October 29, 2014 (UTC)
==Moving the TARDIS==
In the episode The Doctor moves the TARDIS by pulling it along with his hand from the inside. However in "Parting of the Ways" Micky attempts to pull the console open with a chain hooked onto his car, and then a pickup truck. Isn't this inconsistent to come degree? If the Doctor can pull the box along with his hand, why did the box remain stationary when the chain hooked to the console was being pulled? Both use the same method, something from the inside is reaching out of the door, and applying force on the ground to move away from the box. Surley if the Doctor moves the TARDIS with his hand, then it should have moved forward when Mickey accelerated in his car or the truck?

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Plot[[edit source]]

When is the plot added? I'd write it up myself, but I wouldn't be able to make a perfectly accurate writing during and/or after the episode since I've only seen it once. Just wondering.Masterpwn 02:47, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

Basically, the plot is added when someone familiar with it has the time to sit down and write it out. Writing a plot can take a good deal of time.
It's a mistake that newer users often make, thinking that there's a time limit for getting content on the wiki. There's no rush; we'd rather have accurate info, even though it takes time to create, than quick info that might be riddled with mistakes. Shambala108 03:02, October 19, 2014 (UTC)

Pixar[[edit source]]

As much as pixar aren't the only ones to reference A113, I think it's fair to say that they are the most well known for it. In addition, I think the significance of the reference is just as important, ie. going from 2 to 3 dimensions, in which case it's use in Doctor Who would be a reference to Pixar rather than the classroom.

Geek Mythology 04:44, October 25, 2014 (UTC)

I think you are injecting a personal bias toward something you know, rather than provable facts. Pixar was not the first computer animated films, nor did they originate 3D animated films. --Buckimion 12:43, October 25, 2014 (UTC)
Furthering Buckimion's point, Pixar was not the first with strides in the area of Animation. As you said Geek, "pixar aren't the only ones to reference A113", seeing this I do not think it would be appropriate to reference Pixar specifically, as there was no evidence of a 'hat's off' directly to them.
JPhil2.013:12:34 Sat 25 Oct 2014
However, no one is claiming that this is included because Pixar originated anything or that this a direct nod to Pixar. But Pixar is well known for being tied to A113, as is director Brad Bird in particular. This should be noted. Monkey with a Gun 01:32, October 29, 2014 (UTC)
You are making an assumption that "everyone knows." Stick to provable facts, not a random statement. --Buckimion 01:37, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Ok, fair enough that we should stick to what we factually know, rather than speculate, and we cannot know the programme makers intnetions with the reference. Just to clarify my intentions though, in terms of Pixar originating 3d animation, although pixar as a company technically didn't, it was founded by those who who first iniated it (john lasseter etc) and were responsible for the first use of computer animation in a feature film, the genesis clip in wrath of khan. In addition to this is obviously toy story, the first ever fully 3d cgi animated feature film. Geek Mythology 03:47, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Nothing in the entry says it is a reference, but does point out the significance of the number so that the reader may draw their own conclusions. The objection is the attempt to forward an opinion that Pixar is the most well-known of those references (It certainly was not where I encountered it for the first time.) without any evidence whatsoever. --Buckimion 03:55, October 29, 2014 (UTC)

Moving the TARDIS[[edit source]]

In the episode The Doctor moves the TARDIS by pulling it along with his hand from the inside. However in "Parting of the Ways" Micky attempts to pull the console open with a chain hooked onto his car, and then a pickup truck. Isn't this inconsistent to come degree? If the Doctor can pull the box along with his hand, why did the box remain stationary when the chain hooked to the console was being pulled? Both use the same method, something from the inside is reaching out of the door, and applying force on the ground to move away from the box. Surley if the Doctor moves the TARDIS with his hand, then it should have moved forward when Mickey accelerated in his car or the truck?