Talk:Rhodian

Biology

The Rhodia planet that is shown is obviously one that April imagines and we don't know how it looks like. The "real" appearance is also something that April imagines, and not the actual appearance. Also, it's not stated explicitly whether the Rhodia and the Quill are really different species or different nations of the same species. JagoAndLitefoot ☎ 01:30, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

• And how do you know that?? As I see it, we see Charlie's vision of the planet. And if they are the same species, why is that never mentioned? It's the same as Earth being inhabited by different species. --DCLM ☎ 18:26, October 23, 2016 (UTC)
  • It's not mentioned that they're different species either. For now, they could either be different species or nations. And we clearly see that it's how April imagines the planet, there's a close-up on her when we see the flashbacks and we see people with school uniforms etc. JagoAndLitefoot ☎ 01:15, October 24, 2016 (UTC)

As I see it, different species makes much better sense. And who is to say that is not how they dress on their planet. Zooming in on April does not mean that she is imagining it... Plus, the flashback starts before that, until she interrupts him, and then it continues. --DCLM ☎ 22:38, October 25, 2016 (UTC)

"And who is to say that is not how they dress on their planet" Surely not Coal Hill School uniforms? JagoAndLitefoot ☎ 13:18, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

The way I took it was that April was imagining the flashback (hence the school uniforms) and then I thought that their alien form was being thought about by Charlie and Quill, though I wasn't entirely sure about that. SarahJaneFan ☎ 10:38, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

I thought it was her thinking about what they might "actually" look like when looking at them. Anyway, I wouldn't put that appearance as "fact" in the article until it's confirmed otherwise. JagoAndLitefoot ☎

I added a sentence saying that it's unclear whether that was their true form. JagoAndLitefoot ☎ 13:24, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

The Rhodia

The subtitles confirm that the species is the Rhodia and not Rhodian. We need a name change. --90.197.224.187^{talk to me} 14:18, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Well... that is a bit tricky. Because both versions are used. Charlie and Quill says "Rhodia", but the Doctor says "Rhodian". Are we to assume that (speaking strictly about the species) that these two are interchangable, like "cycle" and "bicycle"? --DCLM ☎ 18:31, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

Charlie does indeed also say "Rhodian" in the same scene as the Doctor. --DCLM ☎ 22:09, October 23, 2016 (UTC)

So... what is the conclusion on this debate? --DCLM ☎ 16:41, October 24, 2016 (UTC)

I'd say keep it at Rhodian to differentiate from the planet but note the variant pronunciation in the article. 17:42, October 24, 2016 (UTC)$2

I'd argue Rhodia (species) should be a redirect, and another valid way to refer to them collectively throughout the wiki. I agree that Rhodian should remain the title of this page, as it offers the greatest distinction, and both the Doctor and an actual Rhodian use it within the narrative.

Note that "a Rhodia" is never a construction used, and should be considered incorrect. "The Rhodia"/"The Rhodians"/"A Rhodian" are all valid.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 19:36, October 24, 2016 (UTC)

I agree with SOTO. As both are actually used, both should be valid, while the current title should stay to differentiate planet and species. --DCLM ☎ 20:35, October 24, 2016 (UTC)