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When I encountered it, the lead asserted this was a "[[Doctor-lite]]" episode. It's not, though. A Doctor/companion lite episode is one that arises from the ''production'' need to [[double banking|double bank]] two episodes at the same time. Thus, one or more of the primary artists are not available for one of the two episodes. Given the split season, and the almost leisurely pace of filming this year that allowed them to be completing shots as late as July/August, there was nothing double banked in series 6, and therefore no '''need''' for a "Doctor lite" episode. | When I encountered it, the lead asserted this was a "[[Doctor-lite]]" episode. It's not, though. A Doctor/companion lite episode is one that arises from the ''production'' need to [[double banking|double bank]] two episodes at the same time. Thus, one or more of the primary artists are not available for one of the two episodes. Given the split season, and the almost leisurely pace of filming this year that allowed them to be completing shots as late as July/August, there was nothing double banked in series 6, and therefore no '''need''' for a "Doctor lite" episode. | ||
Narratively, this is in no sense a Doctor lite episode, as the Doctor is present in virtually every scene. Granted, he's often there by remote control, but he's still there, with lines, the entire time. It is an unusual visual structure to have the three regulars often essentially alone in shots, but communicating with the others who are offscreen. But that doesn't make this "Doctor lite" any more than ''[[Father's Day]]'' is for concentrating on Rose and Pete, and having a few minutes where the Doctor has been removed from the scene by Reapers. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | Narratively, this is in no sense a Doctor lite episode, as the Doctor is present in virtually every scene. Granted, he's often there by remote control, but he's still there, with lines, the entire time. It is an unusual visual structure to have the three regulars often essentially alone in shots, but communicating with the others who are offscreen. But that doesn't make this "Doctor lite" any more than ''[[Father's Day (TV story)|Father's Day]]'' is for concentrating on Rose and Pete, and having a few minutes where the Doctor has been removed from the scene by Reapers. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''13:40:19 Sun '''11 Sep 2011 </span> | ||
This is another example of "definition extension" that stretches the meaning of a term until it becomes useless. There has been argument over the definition of "Companion" for decades. The meaning of "Alias" on the "The Doctor's aliases" pages and the "also known as" boxes make those a mess. Perhaps this should be discussed in one of the community sections, but this looks a good place to point it out. As someone who favors precise writing, if only as a kindness to the reader, I feel more care should be taken.[[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 13:46, September 11, 2011 (UTC) | This is another example of "definition extension" that stretches the meaning of a term until it becomes useless. There has been argument over the definition of "Companion" for decades. The meaning of "Alias" on the "The Doctor's aliases" pages and the "also known as" boxes make those a mess. Perhaps this should be discussed in one of the community sections, but this looks a good place to point it out. As someone who favors precise writing, if only as a kindness to the reader, I feel more care should be taken.[[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 13:46, September 11, 2011 (UTC) | ||
* Although I agree this episode was not Doctor-lite it should be noted that a number of reviews do indeed refer to it as such. I'm not exactly sure where the figuring is though; in the past, Doctor-lite episodes have been generally episodes shot at the same time as others but there's no indication that was the case here. In a similar vein there was no Doctor-lite episode in Series 5 either (there was a companion-lite episode in The Lodger). The closest thing we've had to a Doctor-lite episode in the Matt Smith era is A Good Man Goes to War as the Doctor doesn't appear until 1/4 of the way into the episode. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.80.110|68.146.80.110]] 14:53, September 11, 2011 (UTC) | * Although I agree this episode was not Doctor-lite it should be noted that a number of reviews do indeed refer to it as such. I'm not exactly sure where the figuring is though; in the past, Doctor-lite episodes have been generally episodes shot at the same time as others but there's no indication that was the case here. In a similar vein there was no Doctor-lite episode in Series 5 either (there was a companion-lite episode in The Lodger). The closest thing we've had to a Doctor-lite episode in the Matt Smith era is A Good Man Goes to War as the Doctor doesn't appear until 1/4 of the way into the episode. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.80.110|68.146.80.110]] 14:53, September 11, 2011 | ||
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<p style="margin-left: 40px; ">The episode is Doctor-lite. Tom MacRae recently said it was in DWM, noting that it wouldn't even feel like one, as the Doctor appeared in almost every scene. It's very simple for the production crew to film the Doctor in the TARDIS, so that's why there are so many scenes of him, even though it's Doctor-lite. Matt Smith filmed ''Closing Time'' alongside this. It was produced as a Doctor-lite episode, and so it is one. {{User:D0ct0r11/sig}} 21:04: Sun 9 Sep 2011</p> | |||
== Green Screen Error == | == Green Screen Error == | ||
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No, he means the bit straight above ''his'' right eye. It's not tough to see by any standard. It's a large patch of brightly coloured hair.--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 13:54, September 11, 2011 (UTC) | No, he means the bit straight above ''his'' right eye. It's not tough to see by any standard. It's a large patch of brightly coloured hair.--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 13:54, September 11, 2011 (UTC) | ||
Actually there are two spots where this blue highlight is seen. Right above the eye as the screenshot above indicated and also when the Doctor turns before the screen fades away there is another blue highlight in the hair on the back of his head. I don't know if this is a error with a green screen as it doesn't appear to be a green screen scene. It could also be the overhead blue light shining in that hallway reflecting in the gel in Matt's hair. | Actually there are two spots where this blue highlight is seen. Right above the eye as the screenshot above indicated and also when the Doctor turns before the screen fades away there is another blue highlight in the hair on the back of his head. I don't know if this is a error with a green screen as it doesn't appear to be a green screen scene. It could also be the overhead blue light shining in that hallway reflecting in the gel in Matt's hair. In the scene right before, you can see the same light shining a bluish tint on the sleeves of his shirt as he says he'll leave the both of them alone to talk. [[User:TheLastDoctor|TheLastDoctor]] 18:15, September 11, 2011 (UTC) | ||
To me, it's clear that the blue streak is a reflection of the ceiling/wall off Matt's hair gel. [[User:Rob.haigh|Haigh21]] 19:10, September 11, 2011 (UTC) | |||
==Father's Day discussion== | ==Father's Day discussion== | ||
I removed one item from the Continuity section: | I removed one item from the Continuity section: | ||
: ''The TARDIS' ability to sustain the paradox of a person in two different points of their timestream was previously shown in [[Father's Day]] as the TARDIS was unable to maintain the paradox of Rose Tyler touching her infant self.'' | : ''The TARDIS' ability to sustain the paradox of a person in two different points of their timestream was previously shown in [[Father's Day (TV story)|Father's Day]] as the TARDIS was unable to maintain the paradox of Rose Tyler touching her infant self.'' | ||
This does not happen in the episode. Rose touches her infant self with no effect. The TARDIS "malfunction" in that episode was due to the paradox created by Rose saving her father's life and changing the timeline. It had nothing to do with her contacting her infant self. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.80.110|68.146.80.110]] 14:48, September 11, 2011 (UTC) | This does not happen in the episode. Rose touches her infant self with no effect. The TARDIS "malfunction" in that episode was due to the paradox created by Rose saving her father's life and changing the timeline. It had nothing to do with her contacting her infant self. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.80.110|68.146.80.110]] 14:48, September 11, 2011 (UTC) | ||
:: I agree with the removing of that item, but as a note Rose Tyler never did actually touch her self in that episode. See [[Blinovitch Limitation Effect]]. You're correct that the paradox was the saving of her father's life. [[User:Spreee|Spreee]] [[User talk:Spreee|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:24, October 18, 2012 (UTC)Spreee | |||
== Theme played in the tardis == | |||
I notced that around 7:20 on the iplayer a small tape player looking device activates on the tardis console and plays a section of the old theme. | |||
Well spotted, I just watched that bit again! [[User:Rob.haigh|Haigh21]] 11:31, September 12, 2011 (UTC) | |||
: I can see how that could be interpreted to be part of the theme song, but I can safely say that it's not. It's just a wibbly sound effect. {{User:D0ct0r11/sig}} 20:11: Mon 9 Sep 2011 | |||
: You can definitely hear it if you concentrate. Think of the 60s/70s version slowed right down. [[Special:Contributions/93.97.198.54|93.97.198.54]] 20:20, September 12, 2011 (UTC) | |||
: I just checked it out... It is NOT a wibbly sound effect : it is really the 60's theme played backwards. [[User:Nafoute|Nafoute, R. C. with a P. in the M.]] 17:24, September 13, 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Confidential Footage == | |||
Was the racing car and/or shark diving footage as seen on the Confidential not intended to appear in the episode? | |||
: Yes [[User:Alpha111|Alpha111]] 07:13, September 13, 2011 (UTC) | |||
:The footage was Confidential giving Karen and Arthur a chance at doing something they always wanted to do. It had nothing to do with the episode. -- [[User:Deb1701|Future Companion]] | |||
:Thanks for the clarification! I suspected this but must have missed something they said. [[Special:Contributions/93.209.141.31|93.209.141.31]] 10:42, September 13, 2011 (UTC) | |||
as the disease kills anyone with two hearts if Amy was preganat would it kill her to as she techanicaly has two hearts at the time? | |||
[[Special:Contributions/211.27.114.74|211.27.114.74]] 05:16, September 16, 2011 (UTC) | |||
<p style="margin-left: 40px; ">She wasn't pregnant at the time of "The Girl Who Waited". Also, having a fetus differs from a binary vascular system. [[Special:Contributions/93.209.140.117|93.209.140.117]] 11:34, September 17, 2011 (UTC)</p> | |||
== Images with BBC logo on them. == | |||
There's a couple of images with BBC One idents, but due to the episode's colour scheme, you have to really squint to see them. Should they still be removed per [[T:IUP LIST]]? -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 03:34, February 12, 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Spelling == | |||
Just saw this on DVD a few hours ago. According to the subtitles, [[Apalapucia]] should be ''Appalapachia'', [[Apalapucian]] should be ''Appalapachian'', and [[Chen-7]] should be ''Gen-7''. --[[User:MrThermomanPreacher|MrThermomanPreacher]] <sup>[[User talk:MrThermomanPreacher|talk to me]]</sup> 07:34, April 4, 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Floor Lamp in the TARDIS == | |||
I am new here, so don't crucify me if this is not the right place to talk about this... | |||
The floor lamps in the TARDIS look suspiciously similar to the ones in "Space: 1999" (Gerry and Sylvia Anderson & ITC Production of the 1970's)[[User:BorisCrepeauReel|BorisCrepeauReel]] [[User talk:BorisCrepeauReel|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:11, September 12, 2014 (UTC) | |||
== improperly sourced == | |||
Moving this here because it may need to be more specific, and it certainly needs to be formatted properly. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:03, November 6, 2016 (UTC) | |||
* Voice of [[Handbot]]s - [[Stephen Bracken-Keogh]] (uncredited on-screen but credited in ''Radio Times'') | |||