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Please be advised that it is a policy of this wiki that only admins are allowed to move pages. The rationale and suggested alternatives are explained at [[Thread:128198]]. Thank you for your attention. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:24, May 8, 2017 (UTC)
Please be advised that it is a policy of this wiki that only admins are allowed to move pages. The rationale and suggested alternatives are explained at [[Thread:128198]]. Thank you for your attention. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:24, May 8, 2017 (UTC)
:Okay. Thanks for your notification. :) Firstly, it seems to me that the page moves I've made are permitted by that page, as it states that, "Determine how many links there are to the current name. If there are under 10, go ahead and manually move them to the new name." The only pages I've moved have been ones with less than ten incoming links, and I've done all that cleanup work myself, leaving just the redirects remaining where the moved articles used to be. Nonetheless, I'll endeavour to use the "speedy rename" template from now on, solely due to your preference. And if I have misunderstood the page you've linked to, perhaps it could be tweaked for clarification(?) Secondly, how do I apply for adminship on this wiki? --[[User:Time Lord|Time Lord]] [[User talk:Time Lord#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:21, May 9, 2017 (UTC)
:Okay. Thanks for your notification. :) Firstly, it seems to me that the page moves I've made are permitted by that page, as it states that, "Determine how many links there are to the current name. If there are under 10, go ahead and manually move them to the new name." The only pages I've moved have been ones with less than ten incoming links, and I've done all that cleanup work myself, leaving just the redirects remaining where the moved articles used to be. Nonetheless, I'll endeavour to use the "speedy rename" template from now on, solely due to your preference. And if I have misunderstood the page you've linked to, perhaps it could be tweaked for clarification(?) Secondly, how do I apply for adminship on this wiki? --[[User:Time Lord|Time Lord]] [[User talk:Time Lord#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:21, May 9, 2017 (UTC)
:: I think I know where your misunderstanding stems from. Your quote says "move '''them'''", them being the links. And, indeed, admins are always grateful when links are already moved, provided of course that the page move was obviously needed and did not require any discussion. Moving links, however, is not the same as moving the page itself. For instance, the move of [[Valentina Vistin]] to [[Valentina Visintin]], which you performed, was necessary and I thank you for picking up on this. But the remaining redirect should not be there (unless the typo is in the credits of the episode itself). As explained in the thread I referred you to, moves without leaving a redirect are only technically available to admins.
:: I understand that it can be frustrating to know the move is needed but having to wait till an admin comes around to take care of it. And the decision to disallow page moves by regular users was made during your hiatus. However, you are still bound by it by [[T:BOUND]]. I appreciate your good will, but please do not confuse yourself by thinking that the prohibition on page moves is somehow a whim of one admin. It has been a policy for years, well before my time, and many a user have been blocked for violating it. The title of the thread I pointed out and the highlighted text within the thread are pretty self-explanatory. It's hard to be clearer than that.
:: As a side note, I am now trying to deal with clear-cut cases of speedy renames. But the policy should be followed regardless of that.
:: Finally, the policy regarding becoming an admin is explained at [[T:HOW ADMIN]]. The actual nomination is performed at [[Tardis:User rights nominations]].
:: I am happy that you are back. Experienced editors should be and are valued. Just remember that many things have changed since you've been gone. Gallifrey is back. The Master is a woman. There is a new incarnation of the Doctor in between Eight and Nine. Users shouldn't move pages. All story names must be dabbed. Timelines are prohibited except in the Howling. Remember: 21st century is when everything changes. And we must be ready. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:43, May 9, 2017 (UTC)

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page moves: please don't

Please be advised that it is a policy of this wiki that only admins are allowed to move pages. The rationale and suggested alternatives are explained at Thread:128198. Thank you for your attention. Amorkuz 12:24, May 8, 2017 (UTC)

Okay. Thanks for your notification. :) Firstly, it seems to me that the page moves I've made are permitted by that page, as it states that, "Determine how many links there are to the current name. If there are under 10, go ahead and manually move them to the new name." The only pages I've moved have been ones with less than ten incoming links, and I've done all that cleanup work myself, leaving just the redirects remaining where the moved articles used to be. Nonetheless, I'll endeavour to use the "speedy rename" template from now on, solely due to your preference. And if I have misunderstood the page you've linked to, perhaps it could be tweaked for clarification(?) Secondly, how do I apply for adminship on this wiki? --Time Lord 07:21, May 9, 2017 (UTC)
I think I know where your misunderstanding stems from. Your quote says "move them", them being the links. And, indeed, admins are always grateful when links are already moved, provided of course that the page move was obviously needed and did not require any discussion. Moving links, however, is not the same as moving the page itself. For instance, the move of Valentina Vistin to Valentina Visintin, which you performed, was necessary and I thank you for picking up on this. But the remaining redirect should not be there (unless the typo is in the credits of the episode itself). As explained in the thread I referred you to, moves without leaving a redirect are only technically available to admins.
I understand that it can be frustrating to know the move is needed but having to wait till an admin comes around to take care of it. And the decision to disallow page moves by regular users was made during your hiatus. However, you are still bound by it by T:BOUND. I appreciate your good will, but please do not confuse yourself by thinking that the prohibition on page moves is somehow a whim of one admin. It has been a policy for years, well before my time, and many a user have been blocked for violating it. The title of the thread I pointed out and the highlighted text within the thread are pretty self-explanatory. It's hard to be clearer than that.
As a side note, I am now trying to deal with clear-cut cases of speedy renames. But the policy should be followed regardless of that.
Finally, the policy regarding becoming an admin is explained at T:HOW ADMIN. The actual nomination is performed at Tardis:User rights nominations.
I am happy that you are back. Experienced editors should be and are valued. Just remember that many things have changed since you've been gone. Gallifrey is back. The Master is a woman. There is a new incarnation of the Doctor in between Eight and Nine. Users shouldn't move pages. All story names must be dabbed. Timelines are prohibited except in the Howling. Remember: 21st century is when everything changes. And we must be ready. Amorkuz 08:43, May 9, 2017 (UTC)