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:It's just that I had a look through the Outpost Gallifrey forums and there's a lot of...contention over what Sec actually did...Wikipedia isn't the be all and end all...after all this wiki is meant to be the expert in Doctor Who related matters...--[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 06:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC) | :It's just that I had a look through the Outpost Gallifrey forums and there's a lot of...contention over what Sec actually did...Wikipedia isn't the be all and end all...after all this wiki is meant to be the expert in Doctor Who related matters...--[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 06:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
Well, I've changed it back to an older revision as the previous one goes better than the others (in my opinion), but it's just that until we know for sure it's more accurate. As another point, was it Thay or Jast who had his back polycarbide plates removed? I thought it was Jast (which would make all the Cult have a relatively large individual part in the story) but somebody changed it to be in Thay's section, which I changed back with the rest of the edits. {{:User:Ghelæ/sig}} 06:11, 6 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
::I think it's Thay, when they're all in their control room Sec turns to Thay and says "We have all made sacrifices Thay", or something along those lines. Actually, have just re-watched it, I can't work out if when Sec says it to Thay the camera shot is either of Jaast or Thay. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 06:46, 6 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
:::For what it's worth I thought Sec sacrificed himself for the Doctor; you don't jump in front of a gunstick in that kind of situation unless you know what you're doing! Furthermore it kind of says everything you need to know about what happened to Sec, that he gave up his own life to save the Doctor from the Daleks. It may not be indisputable simply from what's on screen but it makes more sense (and is more satisfying) in terms of story, which is surely the most important thing. --[[User:Gai-jin|Gai-jin]] 08:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
::::Dalek Thay is the one whose polycarbide plates were removed. From the camera's view, Thay is on Sec's right, so when the camera pans down to view the missing plates, it is in deed Thay. You can tell because Thay watches the attack on Hoverville with Sec. It's easy to identify them becaue Thay's voice is deep, Jast's voice is high, and Caan's is the normal pitched Dalek voice. --[[User:Steed|Steed]] 09:43, 10 August 2007 | |||
==Dalek Caan== | |||
Can it be possible that Dalek Caan is the dalek who died in the episode "Dalek"? It is mentioned that the dalek may have fallen through time, and Dalek Caan was last seen activating an emergency temporal shift. --Potens 20:47, 13 August 2007 | |||
:Doubt it. The Dalek in ''[[Dalek (TV story)|Dalek]]'' seemed to be a generic soldier, but Caan was intended to have a personality. Also, the Dalek didn't know anything about the end of the Time War, but the Doctor explained it to the Cult of Skaro in ''[[Doomsday (TV story)|Doomsday]]''. -<[[User:Azes13|Azes13]] 22:03, 13 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
== Dalek Rabe? == | |||
Who is Dalek Rabe and when was he on doctor who? --[[Special:Contributions/79.73.111.247|79.73.111.247]] 14:02, 7 July 2008 (UTC) | |||
Dalek Rabe was the original name for Dalek Jast, but it was changed in the shooting scripts because it sounded too much like 'Dalek Ray'. [[User:Jim393|Jim393]] 11:08, January 23, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Void Ship == | |||
is it possible that the cult of Skaro is not from the main stream universe, they where from the void | |||
:It's possible, but there's no evidence for it or against it. In any case, if they were from a parallel dimension it would have to be one that was pretty close, since they didn't seem to notice any differences. -<[[User:Azes13|Azes13]] 02:26, 12 August 2008 (UTC) | |||
==Early Mentions?== | |||
Wasn't there a mention of the Cult of Skaro in some First Doctor serial (the Chase, I think), or am I just going crazy? {{SUBST:User:Xavius/Signature}} 20:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
:I don't think there was. [[User:Jack's the man|Jack's]] [[User talk:Jack's the man|the]] [[Special:Contributions/Jack's the man|man]] - 17:03, 15 September 2008 (UTC) | |||
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:I think there was. I have just watched the chase and the Doctor does say something about their 'skaro plan'. It's called the extermination through eternity though and has four daleks in a time machine chasing around the doctor and the companions. Seems VERY much like the proto-cult of skaro to me. [[User:The Human Doctor|The Human Doctor]] 17:31, June 6, 2010 (UTC) |
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Dalek Sec[[edit source]]
Under Dalek Sec's entry it states 'He gave his life to save the Doctor'. Watching it back again this statement is...questionable, it's not totally untrue (maybe) but it looks more that he's trying to convince Thay and Jast rather than throwing himself in front of the Daleks' weapons to save the Doctor. --Tangerineduel 03:40, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not sure about it either (and that part originally had that the Daleks exteminated him), but Wikipedia has it like that, although it's still very questionable. If there was a "Noooooooooooo!!!" then it would've been life-saving, definately. ~ Ghelæ -talk-contribs 06:24, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
- It's just that I had a look through the Outpost Gallifrey forums and there's a lot of...contention over what Sec actually did...Wikipedia isn't the be all and end all...after all this wiki is meant to be the expert in Doctor Who related matters...--Tangerineduel 06:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, I've changed it back to an older revision as the previous one goes better than the others (in my opinion), but it's just that until we know for sure it's more accurate. As another point, was it Thay or Jast who had his back polycarbide plates removed? I thought it was Jast (which would make all the Cult have a relatively large individual part in the story) but somebody changed it to be in Thay's section, which I changed back with the rest of the edits. ~ Ghelæ -talk-contribs 06:11, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
- I think it's Thay, when they're all in their control room Sec turns to Thay and says "We have all made sacrifices Thay", or something along those lines. Actually, have just re-watched it, I can't work out if when Sec says it to Thay the camera shot is either of Jaast or Thay. --Tangerineduel 06:46, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
- For what it's worth I thought Sec sacrificed himself for the Doctor; you don't jump in front of a gunstick in that kind of situation unless you know what you're doing! Furthermore it kind of says everything you need to know about what happened to Sec, that he gave up his own life to save the Doctor from the Daleks. It may not be indisputable simply from what's on screen but it makes more sense (and is more satisfying) in terms of story, which is surely the most important thing. --Gai-jin 08:35, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
- Dalek Thay is the one whose polycarbide plates were removed. From the camera's view, Thay is on Sec's right, so when the camera pans down to view the missing plates, it is in deed Thay. You can tell because Thay watches the attack on Hoverville with Sec. It's easy to identify them becaue Thay's voice is deep, Jast's voice is high, and Caan's is the normal pitched Dalek voice. --Steed 09:43, 10 August 2007
Dalek Caan[[edit source]]
Can it be possible that Dalek Caan is the dalek who died in the episode "Dalek"? It is mentioned that the dalek may have fallen through time, and Dalek Caan was last seen activating an emergency temporal shift. --Potens 20:47, 13 August 2007
- Doubt it. The Dalek in Dalek seemed to be a generic soldier, but Caan was intended to have a personality. Also, the Dalek didn't know anything about the end of the Time War, but the Doctor explained it to the Cult of Skaro in Doomsday. -<Azes13 22:03, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
Dalek Rabe?[[edit source]]
Who is Dalek Rabe and when was he on doctor who? --79.73.111.247 14:02, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Dalek Rabe was the original name for Dalek Jast, but it was changed in the shooting scripts because it sounded too much like 'Dalek Ray'. Jim393 11:08, January 23, 2010 (UTC)
Void Ship[[edit source]]
is it possible that the cult of Skaro is not from the main stream universe, they where from the void
- It's possible, but there's no evidence for it or against it. In any case, if they were from a parallel dimension it would have to be one that was pretty close, since they didn't seem to notice any differences. -<Azes13 02:26, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
Early Mentions?[[edit source]]
Wasn't there a mention of the Cult of Skaro in some First Doctor serial (the Chase, I think), or am I just going crazy? {{SUBST:User:Xavius/Signature}} 20:36, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
- I don't think there was. Jack's the man - 17:03, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
- I think there was. I have just watched the chase and the Doctor does say something about their 'skaro plan'. It's called the extermination through eternity though and has four daleks in a time machine chasing around the doctor and the companions. Seems VERY much like the proto-cult of skaro to me. The Human Doctor 17:31, June 6, 2010 (UTC)