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:Do not delete every single piece of an editors work just because they'd made a mistake, a worked on the existing content too - correcting it to ensure that it was more understandable. You coming along and bulldozing everything is, in my opinion, vandalism too. [[Special:Contributions/109.151.95.119|109.151.95.119]]<sup>[[User talk:109.151.95.119#top|talk to me]]</sup> 10:38, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
:Do not delete every single piece of an editors work just because they'd made a mistake, a worked on the existing content too - correcting it to ensure that it was more understandable. You coming along and bulldozing everything is, in my opinion, vandalism too. [[Special:Contributions/109.151.95.119|109.151.95.119]]<sup>[[User talk:109.151.95.119#top|talk to me]]</sup> 10:38, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
:: Yea, but it's not really though. All I did was undo your edit which not only added speculation, but also ''deleted'' a rename template. I would ask that if you truly believe in the future that half of an edit was fine for policy that you didn't ''continuously'' re-add the half which was directly challenged. It ''is'' vandalism to agree with me that some of what you added was speculation before ''adding it all again'' just to prove a point. For each time you reverted the edits of other users removing the speculatory content and re-adding the tag, you could have simply ''not re-added the content which was challenged'' while adding all of the other stuff. Instead, you left it up to others to clean-up your work over-and-over again for little reason. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|Talk]]) 10:49, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
:: Yea, but it's not really though. All I did was undo your edit which not only added speculation, but also ''deleted'' a rename template. I would ask that if you truly believe in the future that half of an edit was fine for policy that you didn't ''continuously'' re-add the half which was directly challenged. It ''is'' vandalism to agree with me that some of what you added was speculation before ''adding it all again'' just to prove a point. For each time you reverted the edits of other users removing the speculatory content and re-adding the tag, you could have simply ''not re-added the content which was challenged'' while adding all of the other stuff. Instead, you left it up to others to clean-up your work over-and-over again for little reason. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|Talk]]) 10:49, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
:::I don't agree with you. You claim that the Monks and the Veritas have nothing in common... despite the fact that they look like each other, wear the same red robes, etc, but I'm not going to go into a big rant about it as I know you wouldn't care and would continue to erase my work. I just wanted my hard work that I knew wouldn't be disputed to be saved. The deletion of the re-name tag was completely accidental when I created the infobox. [[Special:Contributions/109.151.95.119|109.151.95.119]]<sup>[[User talk:109.151.95.119#top|talk to me]]</sup> 10:53, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
:::: But that's not enough -- that's speculation. I'm not "erasing your work," I'm making sure that the page doesn't go to huge leaps to claim that two species are the same without evidence. Again, if you wanted your other changes to be included all you had to do would be to re-add the elements which didn't falsely claim that the Monks are the Veritas. Reverting my edits twice just to re-instate a new infobox and some fleshed out sentences ''when it also re-added the thing which was removed'' is an edit conflict in direct nature. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|Talk]]) 10:57, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
:::::Speculation? I'm positive there has been a good few comics that haven't directly referenced the alien's race (be it with the Slitheen, Sontaran, Judoon, etc) but we know it is them because of their distinctive looks! [[Special:Contributions/109.151.95.119|109.151.95.119]]<sup>[[User talk:109.151.95.119#top|talk to me]]</sup> 11:00, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
::::::Just gonna pitch in quick here. If there no sign of anyone outright stating they are the same in universe, then they aren't so you're speculating. That's all I have to say. [[User:Snivystorm|Snivystorm]] [[User talk:Snivystorm|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:04, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
:::::::Of course they're in the same universe. [[Special:Contributions/109.151.95.119|109.151.95.119]]<sup>[[User talk:109.151.95.119#top|talk to me]]</sup> 11:06, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
::::::::Got a source for that, besides making assumptions based on their clothing/appearance? [[User:Snivystorm|Snivystorm]] [[User talk:Snivystorm|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:24, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::First of all, you should learn how to format your replies properly - I've been doing it for you as you seem incapable. Secondly, maybe the fact that there was only three of the Monks in this episode (just like there were only three surviving members of the species in the SJA audio) and that Episode 8 is called '<title removed per [[T:SPOIL]]>' which fits with lying theme that surrounded the Veritas in the audio too. Too many connections for it to be a coincidence/speculation. [[Special:Contributions/109.151.95.119|109.151.95.119]]<sup>[[User talk:109.151.95.119#top|talk to me]]</sup>
::::::::::Thanks for fixing my errors, I'm not used to a conversation so going so "off track". Regardless, that's stil lol no assumption, no one has outright said they were the same from either of those sources. Until we get something more solid than a mere assumption, I'm afraid it stays as is. [[User:Snivystorm|Snivystorm]] [[User talk:Snivystorm|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:30, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::::And yet, I've never argued against the fact that we need to wait to add the information. Someone had already linked the enemy of Extrmis to the Veritas and so I added the information. The only reason I complained was because another user removed ALL information I had added despite the fact I'd cleaned up the original info. [[Special:Contributions/109.151.95.119|109.151.95.119]]<sup>[[User talk:109.151.95.119#top|talk to me]]</sup> 11:33, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
:::::::::::: Yet the Veritas hate lying and the Monks do nothing but it. Hardly any evidence, in-universe or out. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|Talk]]) 10:18, May 22, 2017 (UTC)

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Edit war[[edit source]]

Please do not revert my edits to Veritas any further. There is no connection between this species and the Monks seen in the latest episode of Doctor Who. Please do not start an edit war over this, as per Tardis:Vandalism policy this is too against our policies. Thank you. OS25 (Talk) 10:35, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Do not delete every single piece of an editors work just because they'd made a mistake, a worked on the existing content too - correcting it to ensure that it was more understandable. You coming along and bulldozing everything is, in my opinion, vandalism too. 109.151.95.119talk to me 10:38, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
Yea, but it's not really though. All I did was undo your edit which not only added speculation, but also deleted a rename template. I would ask that if you truly believe in the future that half of an edit was fine for policy that you didn't continuously re-add the half which was directly challenged. It is vandalism to agree with me that some of what you added was speculation before adding it all again just to prove a point. For each time you reverted the edits of other users removing the speculatory content and re-adding the tag, you could have simply not re-added the content which was challenged while adding all of the other stuff. Instead, you left it up to others to clean-up your work over-and-over again for little reason. OS25 (Talk) 10:49, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
I don't agree with you. You claim that the Monks and the Veritas have nothing in common... despite the fact that they look like each other, wear the same red robes, etc, but I'm not going to go into a big rant about it as I know you wouldn't care and would continue to erase my work. I just wanted my hard work that I knew wouldn't be disputed to be saved. The deletion of the re-name tag was completely accidental when I created the infobox. 109.151.95.119talk to me 10:53, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
But that's not enough -- that's speculation. I'm not "erasing your work," I'm making sure that the page doesn't go to huge leaps to claim that two species are the same without evidence. Again, if you wanted your other changes to be included all you had to do would be to re-add the elements which didn't falsely claim that the Monks are the Veritas. Reverting my edits twice just to re-instate a new infobox and some fleshed out sentences when it also re-added the thing which was removed is an edit conflict in direct nature. OS25 (Talk) 10:57, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
Speculation? I'm positive there has been a good few comics that haven't directly referenced the alien's race (be it with the Slitheen, Sontaran, Judoon, etc) but we know it is them because of their distinctive looks! 109.151.95.119talk to me 11:00, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
Just gonna pitch in quick here. If there no sign of anyone outright stating they are the same in universe, then they aren't so you're speculating. That's all I have to say. Snivystorm 11:04, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
Of course they're in the same universe. 109.151.95.119talk to me 11:06, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
Got a source for that, besides making assumptions based on their clothing/appearance? Snivystorm 11:24, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
First of all, you should learn how to format your replies properly - I've been doing it for you as you seem incapable. Secondly, maybe the fact that there was only three of the Monks in this episode (just like there were only three surviving members of the species in the SJA audio) and that Episode 8 is called '<title removed per T:SPOIL>' which fits with lying theme that surrounded the Veritas in the audio too. Too many connections for it to be a coincidence/speculation. 109.151.95.119talk to me
Thanks for fixing my errors, I'm not used to a conversation so going so "off track". Regardless, that's stil lol no assumption, no one has outright said they were the same from either of those sources. Until we get something more solid than a mere assumption, I'm afraid it stays as is. Snivystorm 11:30, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
And yet, I've never argued against the fact that we need to wait to add the information. Someone had already linked the enemy of Extrmis to the Veritas and so I added the information. The only reason I complained was because another user removed ALL information I had added despite the fact I'd cleaned up the original info. 109.151.95.119talk to me 11:33, May 21, 2017 (UTC)
Yet the Veritas hate lying and the Monks do nothing but it. Hardly any evidence, in-universe or out. OS25 (Talk) 10:18, May 22, 2017 (UTC)