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 So, in [[Series 6 (Doctor Who)]], it was [[The Silence]] going to great lengths (maybe even causing the TARDIS to explode in [[Series 5 (Doctor Who)]] ) to prevent [[The Doctor]] from being "on the fields of [[Trenzalore]] at the fall of The Eleventh". Nevermind that it didn't look like there were any fields there, in [[The Name of the Doctor (TV story)]], [[Steven Moffat]] put together some kind of alliance between [[The Great Intelligence]] and The Whispermen...I suppose that snowmen were no longer available on a planet that looks volcanic? I'm guessing that that The Whispermen have nothing against The Doctor and are just agents of the Great Intelligence like The Silence had creatures/people working on its behalf.
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 : And there is also the matter of River Song "giving" the Doctor her remaining regenerations (10?11?) to heal him after he was poisoned. Did these regenerations just serve to cure him? Or did she actually pass along her regenerations? Moffat could have easily created a simple antidote to her poison (her lipstick never killed people in other episodes) but he specifically had her heal him by giving him her regenerations. This serves two purposes: It explains why we would only see one incarnation of an adult River and it might explain why the Doctor has additional regenerations. [[User:Badwolff|Badwolff]] [[User talk:Badwolff|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:05, June 7, 2013 (UTC)
+:: The Doctor said that those regenerations were "used up," so he most likely did not get to keep them, Besides, they were used to ''bring the Doctor back to life''; that's not something that should come as cheap as kissing him and giving him your remaining regens all wrapped up in a bow. What River did was basically what the Doctor did in ''The Angels Take Manhattan'' where he used some of his regen energy in order to heal River's wrist, and if you'll remember, she got mad at him for that, saying that he was "wasting" regeneration energy. Frankly, I'm more interested to see if they'll factor in the half-regeneration from ''Journey's End'' when it comes time to deal with the limit. Logically, they should, as he still used up a whole regen's worth. [[User:Ensephylon|Ensephylon]] [[User talk:Ensephylon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:08, June 8, 2013 (UTC)
+:::Unless, of course, it's not how much regeneration energy a Time Lord has that determines how many times they can regenerate, but how they use it. Put better: maybe Time Lords can only physically survive regeneration energy shooting through them 12 times, and since 10 shot the regeneration energy into something else, it took a "side route" and didn't fully affect him. (That made more sense in my head.) Or maybe its ''changing'' 12 times that takes the toll. 10 didn't physically change, so it didn't count. And Romana could "try out" so many forms because she was doing so during a certain "buffer" period of time. And the Time Lords gained the power to regenerate from the Untempered Schism, which the High Council might somehow be able to control the effects of, so they gave the Master new sets of regenerations and/or the ability to survive more. Or, it was by High Council decree that Time Lords were limited to 12 regenerations, and since the Council is gone, the rule no longer applies (we haven't heard otherwise, I don't think). (And this is getting off topic from the original post.) —[[User:BioniclesaurKing4t2|BioniclesaurKing4t2]] - [[User talk:BioniclesaurKing4t2|"Hello, I'm the Doctor.]] [[Special:Contributions/BioniclesaurKing4t2|Basically, . . . ''run''."]] 00:28, June 11, 2013 (UTC)
+:::: Yeah, @BioniclesaurKing4t2, I never quite understood that regenerating-with-severed-hand-and-meta-crisis-Tenth-Doctor storyline but I just saw it as a convenient storytelling device and a way to make Rose fans happy. I think of that whole bit as an asterisk (*) on the list of Doctor incarnations and, along with it, how The Doctor was able to be "killed" by radiation and yet...have the time, energy, life and wherewithal to go make a farewell trip and go see his old Companions. I think Moffat learned from that prolonged regeneration and will have the Eleventh depart more like the Ninth than the Tenth. [[User:Badwolff|Badwolff]] [[User talk:Badwolff|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:46, June 12, 2013 (UTC)