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Are comic previews in-universe? Some, such as the one from [[The Holy Terror]], appear so. However, they are not offical images for the audio and so it is debatable. I previously questioned this (as you can see on my talk page) but it never came to a conclusion.--[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 16:34, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
Are comic previews in-universe? Some, such as the one from [[The Holy Terror]], appear so. However, they are not offical images for the audio and so it is debatable. I previously questioned this (as you can see on my talk page) but it never came to a conclusion.--[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 16:34, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
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No, but I think Tangerine mentioned that it was a DWM artist. However, they likely had instruction from BF.--[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 16:41, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
No, but I think Tangerine mentioned that it was a DWM artist. However, they likely had instruction from BF.--[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 16:41, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
:The issue of whether the artist is BF or DWM is spurious. They're all publishing under license of the BBC, which is what matters to in-universe status. At the end of the day, it's licensed art, no matter who draws it. I think they're more in-universe than covers, because the comic artist is actually trying to represent the story in question. BF covers are, by the admission of people involved (like [[Lisa Bowerman]]) little more than photos of actors. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}
:The issue of whether the artist is BF or DWM is spurious. They're all publishing under license of the BBC, which is what matters to in-universe status. At the end of the day, it's licensed art, no matter who draws it. I think they're more in-universe than covers, because the comic artist is actually trying to represent the story in question. BF covers are, by the admission of people involved (like [[Lisa Bowerman]]) little more than photos of actors. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}
 
However, there are ones that depict scenes and then there are promotional ones.--[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 18:43, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
For the purposes we would use them for I don't see why that should matter, we mainly use the images for infoboxes to represent a character who otherwise can not be seen visually. --[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revan]]\[[User_talk:Revanvolatrelundar|Talk]] 18:45, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
 
: Just a couple of information points on this to add, specifically with respect to cross-over media. [[Lee Sullivan]] (I understand), was commissioned by [[Big Finish]] itself for the artwork to illustrate the CD releases that was then used by DWM. As the two worked so closely in the early days of establishing the range it made sence for BF to be able to have visual material to promote an audio release. On several occassions monster mock-ups were commisioned specifically for use on the cover of the CD releases themselves. There is a difference it seems, between commissioned pieces used to promote specific releases and 'interpretations' (which for example might include the illustrations featured in licensed calendars). There are also the ''[[Radio Times]]'' [[Frank Bellamy]] illustrations to consider, including the [[Terror of the Autons]] comic strip preview and illustrations in David Banks Cybermen book.[[User:The Librarian|The Librarian]] 16:49, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
 
::As CzechOut points out it's all licenced from the content creators where ever it may turn up. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 13:09, February 8, 2011 (UTC)
 
So from this I assume that we are ok to use them on articles? --[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revan]]\[[User_talk:Revanvolatrelundar|Talk]] 16:59, February 8, 2011 (UTC)
 
:Yes. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 13:15, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

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Are comic previews in-universe? Some, such as the one from The Holy Terror, appear so. However, they are not offical images for the audio and so it is debatable. I previously questioned this (as you can see on my talk page) but it never came to a conclusion.--Skittles the hog--Talk 16:34, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Well they are official images, coming from DWM, but I'm uncertain whether they come from BF or just one of DWM's comic artists. Does anyone have an issue to hand so that we could find out? --Revan\Talk 16:37, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

No, but I think Tangerine mentioned that it was a DWM artist. However, they likely had instruction from BF.--Skittles the hog--Talk 16:41, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

The issue of whether the artist is BF or DWM is spurious. They're all publishing under license of the BBC, which is what matters to in-universe status. At the end of the day, it's licensed art, no matter who draws it. I think they're more in-universe than covers, because the comic artist is actually trying to represent the story in question. BF covers are, by the admission of people involved (like Lisa Bowerman) little more than photos of actors.
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However, there are ones that depict scenes and then there are promotional ones.--Skittles the hog--Talk 18:43, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

For the purposes we would use them for I don't see why that should matter, we mainly use the images for infoboxes to represent a character who otherwise can not be seen visually. --Revan\Talk 18:45, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Just a couple of information points on this to add, specifically with respect to cross-over media. Lee Sullivan (I understand), was commissioned by Big Finish itself for the artwork to illustrate the CD releases that was then used by DWM. As the two worked so closely in the early days of establishing the range it made sence for BF to be able to have visual material to promote an audio release. On several occassions monster mock-ups were commisioned specifically for use on the cover of the CD releases themselves. There is a difference it seems, between commissioned pieces used to promote specific releases and 'interpretations' (which for example might include the illustrations featured in licensed calendars). There are also the Radio Times Frank Bellamy illustrations to consider, including the Terror of the Autons comic strip preview and illustrations in David Banks Cybermen book.The Librarian 16:49, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
As CzechOut points out it's all licenced from the content creators where ever it may turn up. --Tangerineduel / talk 13:09, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

So from this I assume that we are ok to use them on articles? --Revan\Talk 16:59, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Yes. --Tangerineduel / talk 13:15, February 9, 2011 (UTC)
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