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As for actors playing Dorian Gray elsewhere, once again, unless they play the character created by Big Finish (perhaps, modified), this info has nothing to do with him. (I'm not sure this info is useful on the wiki in principle, but I'm not gonna press this point.) It may be argued that the info might be interesting for the real-world page [[Alexander Vlahos]] as both played versions of Dorian Gray. But on an in-universe page, the connection is almost absent. You wouldn't put all actors who played Frankenstein on the page of the Eighth Doctor because in [[Mary's Story (audio story)|one story]] he was Dr Frankenstein. For the same reason, actors who played the RW Dorian Gray do not belong on the page of the DWU version of Dorian Gray. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:14, October 18, 2017 (UTC) | As for actors playing Dorian Gray elsewhere, once again, unless they play the character created by Big Finish (perhaps, modified), this info has nothing to do with him. (I'm not sure this info is useful on the wiki in principle, but I'm not gonna press this point.) It may be argued that the info might be interesting for the real-world page [[Alexander Vlahos]] as both played versions of Dorian Gray. But on an in-universe page, the connection is almost absent. You wouldn't put all actors who played Frankenstein on the page of the Eighth Doctor because in [[Mary's Story (audio story)|one story]] he was Dr Frankenstein. For the same reason, actors who played the RW Dorian Gray do not belong on the page of the DWU version of Dorian Gray. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:14, October 18, 2017 (UTC) | ||
: I have to say that is a strong quote. I did not expect such an explicit statement to be present. Before asking for more information, it should be mentioned that the fact of being based on the same source is not by itself sufficient to put things on the same page. The question when to do it is neither vacuous nor trivial. We have [[Geb (Curse of Anubis)]] and [[Geb (Ozymandias)]] who are both based on the Egyptian god Geb and both bear certain features connecting them to Egyptian pantheon. But they should be on separate pages. We have [[Alice Liddell]] and [[Alice Liddell (Land of Fiction)]] because the character of the book was never intended to represent the real person faithfully. On the other hand, [[Kali]] is perfectly okay representing both the Hindu goddess and the [[Kaliratha]] alien because the [[The Swords of Kali (comic story)|story]] is very clear that the myth of the goddess was instigated by and based on the alien. So, as I say, it can go both ways. And your quote suggests that the page I created might really be unnecessary. Here is what I'd still like to understand before deleting it. What is the exact connection between the book and this "real person" Dorian? How is it explained in the stories? Is it similar to Kali? Wilde, being a friend of Dorian, wrote a book basically about him (presumably with some modifications such as the death at the end of the book, which might or might not be commented on in a DWU source)? Or is the explanation somewhat different? What I am searching for is the mechanics of them being almost the same explained in the story, not just a statement. This would separate this situation from, say, the Master calling himself the Doctor. In other words, a character claiming a certain identity should preferably be confirmed/explained in the story. If this situation falls into "place on the same page" category, then the page needs to be rewritten to reflect the fact that it is a literary character closely based on the person. The reason I created a new page was because I could not reasonably link to the page as it was. The text of the page just did not support the link at the time. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:33, October 19, 2017 (UTC) |
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