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 If (or when) there are any, does this category cater for people who identify as transgender or does it only cover [[Time Lord]]s who have changed sex? --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:33, January 30, 2018 (UTC)
 :I would say it caters for any living being/beast, being it a Dalek/Kaled, human, Time Lord, Terileptil, Cyberperson, Kroton, Bannermen(man?), Slitheen, Sea Devil, Sontaran, Sycorax, Draconian, Kroll or whatever. :) I left the option open by writing "individuals". --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:47, January 30, 2018 (UTC)
+I don't have time to explain why it's not okay to call a trans person, fictional or otherwise, "gender-swapped", or even to put trans people in the same category as Time Lords with different genders across their incarnations. [[The Doctor]] is not "gender-swapped". [[Vanessa (Greeks Bearing Gifts)|Vanessa]] is not "gender-swapped". You can't "swap" genders. A trans person never "changed" their gender; it was assumed at birth that they were something they're not. In the case of the Doctor, it's clearly not out of the ordinary to have different genders across incarnations.
+It's simply not notable as a category, and ''literally living out different lives'', with different bodies and different personalities that happen to have different genders between them, is not remotely similar to existing as a trans person. I can see no logic where putting Thirteen and Vanessa together makes any sense.
+Regardless, this category seeks to put together unrelated topics, its intent remains unclear, and the name is based on no research at all from DWU texts. "Gender-swapped individuals", at best, fails [[T:CAT NAMES]], and, at worst, is the product of an ill-informed and transphobic sentiment. Sorry, but it shall not remain.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 05:07, January 31, 2018 (UTC)
+:I have to say that I'm relieved that this category isn't going to remain for all of the reasons cited by SOTO. [[User:GusF|GusF]] [[User talk:GusF|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:08, January 31, 2018 (UTC)
+::Sorry, I did not know this. I had no intent of insult. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:35, January 31, 2018 (UTC)