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==Donna's House==
The location used for Jane's house in the beginning of the episode is the same house previously occupied by [[Donna Noble]]--[[User:Invictus152|ACRONverse Official]] [[User talk:Invictus152|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:28, June 26, 2017 (UTC)
==Fake News Central==
==Fake News Central==
Is the fake news central a reference to Trump's comments about fake news?
Is the fake news central a reference to Trump's comments about fake news?
'''[[User:Jamesb1|Jamesb1]] ([[Message Wall:Jamesb1|talk]])''' 11:21, June 5, 2017 (UTC)
 
Well, that's what the Doctor called the place.--[[User:Sumanuil|Sumanuil]] [[User talk:Sumanuil|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:29, June 5, 2017 (UTC)
 
== 2017 or 2018? ==
Is there any indication that this story takes place in [[2018]]? I see from the history revision that "''The Shining Man'' was set in October 2017 meaning that six months after places this story in 2018.".
 
However, Bill and the Doctor arrived in [[October]] [[2017]] through time-travel. Also, if anything, The Shining Man would point us towards believing this story is still in 2017. Bill mentions that the [[MeadowPhone 3]] were coming out in August, and from the dialogue, it was understood that, from Bill's perspective, they still hadn't come out. This would give us enough space for the Monks to come on Earth, start their invasion and be defeated, all before the events of The Shining Men.
 
Still, I consider this whole thing a bit speculative, specially saying that TLoTL is set in 2018. In my opinion, the wisest thing to be done is to put the date back on "late [[2010s]]" until a further story gives us a better setting. [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:30, June 5, 2017 (UTC)
:Oh, I see. I just assumed ''The Shining Man'' was set in the 'present day'. If no other sources can be found putting late 2010s would be the best bet. --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:58, June 6, 2017 (UTC)
 
== McNeice ==
I'm not convinced with the suggestion that the Ian McNeice Churchill appeared in The Lie of the Land. Here is the Digital Spy image and a screenshot taken from BBC iPlayer. [[File:McNeiceLotL.JPG|right|thumb|Digital Spy]] [[File:NoMcNeiceLotL.JPG|right|thumb|BBC iPlayer]] --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:36, June 11, 2017 (UTC)
:I know. Me neither. I checked through the scene frame by frame at least 10 times, and did not see this. But several articles mention McNeice's cameo-image as being there. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:05, June 11, 2017 (UTC)
::From what I understand, this is a matter of a last minute change. For whatever reason, between the time of the review copies being given and the episode being broadcast McNeice was replaced with the real Churchill. Perhaps it was a matter on consistency: all the other historical figures are represented with real pictures and/or the real Churchill was already seen in the pre-title sequence. [[User:TheChampionOfTime|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT">CoT</span>]]  [[User talk:TheChampionOfTime|<span title="Talk to me">?</span> ]] 17:14, June 11, 2017 (UTC)
:::Hmm... makes sense. Could very well be. Should we still include this in "Story notes"? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:19, June 11, 2017 (UTC)
We should include something about the McNeice Churchill being in review copies, but no speculation. [[User:TheChampionOfTime|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT">CoT</span>]]  [[User talk:TheChampionOfTime|<span title="Talk to me">?</span> ]] 17:22, June 11, 2017 (UTC)
 
 
== To be added ==
Is this page gonna be completed or what? [[User:VendettaRev|VendettaRev]] [[User talk:VendettaRev|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:27, March 10, 2018 (UTC)
:To be honest, that kind of comment isn't very useful. If you have information to add, feel free to do it. Otherwise, it will have to wait for someone who has the information and also has the free time to enter it. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:56, March 10, 2018 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 22:56, 10 March 2018

Donna's House[[edit source]]

The location used for Jane's house in the beginning of the episode is the same house previously occupied by Donna Noble--ACRONverse Official 09:28, June 26, 2017 (UTC)

Fake News Central[[edit source]]

Is the fake news central a reference to Trump's comments about fake news?

Well, that's what the Doctor called the place.--Sumanuil 17:29, June 5, 2017 (UTC)

2017 or 2018?[[edit source]]

Is there any indication that this story takes place in 2018? I see from the history revision that "The Shining Man was set in October 2017 meaning that six months after places this story in 2018.".

However, Bill and the Doctor arrived in October 2017 through time-travel. Also, if anything, The Shining Man would point us towards believing this story is still in 2017. Bill mentions that the MeadowPhone 3 were coming out in August, and from the dialogue, it was understood that, from Bill's perspective, they still hadn't come out. This would give us enough space for the Monks to come on Earth, start their invasion and be defeated, all before the events of The Shining Men.

Still, I consider this whole thing a bit speculative, specially saying that TLoTL is set in 2018. In my opinion, the wisest thing to be done is to put the date back on "late 2010s" until a further story gives us a better setting. OncomingStorm12th 23:30, June 5, 2017 (UTC)

Oh, I see. I just assumed The Shining Man was set in the 'present day'. If no other sources can be found putting late 2010s would be the best bet. --Borisashton 06:58, June 6, 2017 (UTC)

McNeice[[edit source]]

I'm not convinced with the suggestion that the Ian McNeice Churchill appeared in The Lie of the Land. Here is the Digital Spy image and a screenshot taken from BBC iPlayer.

Digital Spy
BBC iPlayer

--Borisashton 15:36, June 11, 2017 (UTC)

I know. Me neither. I checked through the scene frame by frame at least 10 times, and did not see this. But several articles mention McNeice's cameo-image as being there. --DCLM 17:05, June 11, 2017 (UTC)
From what I understand, this is a matter of a last minute change. For whatever reason, between the time of the review copies being given and the episode being broadcast McNeice was replaced with the real Churchill. Perhaps it was a matter on consistency: all the other historical figures are represented with real pictures and/or the real Churchill was already seen in the pre-title sequence. CoT ? 17:14, June 11, 2017 (UTC)
Hmm... makes sense. Could very well be. Should we still include this in "Story notes"? --DCLM 17:19, June 11, 2017 (UTC)

We should include something about the McNeice Churchill being in review copies, but no speculation. CoT ? 17:22, June 11, 2017 (UTC)


To be added[[edit source]]

Is this page gonna be completed or what? VendettaRev 22:27, March 10, 2018 (UTC)

To be honest, that kind of comment isn't very useful. If you have information to add, feel free to do it. Otherwise, it will have to wait for someone who has the information and also has the free time to enter it. Shambala108 22:56, March 10, 2018 (UTC)