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:::I don't really see how "the Reconnaissance Dalek" is much different from "the Ux" or "the Remnants". If we have pages at [[Ux]] and [[Remnant]], this one could very well be '''Reconnaissance Dalek (Resolution)'''. [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:25, January 9, 2019 (UTC) | :::I don't really see how "the Reconnaissance Dalek" is much different from "the Ux" or "the Remnants". If we have pages at [[Ux]] and [[Remnant]], this one could very well be '''Reconnaissance Dalek (Resolution)'''. [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:25, January 9, 2019 (UTC) | ||
::::I agree. "The" is just weird to use here... --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:29, January 9, 2019 (UTC) | ::::I agree. "The" is just weird to use here... --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:29, January 9, 2019 (UTC) | ||
::::I mean, if we had two conflicting ''nicknames'', I'd probably agree with you to go with the televised one, as it's the one that most people will know. But this is different — we are weighing the name given by the webcast versus a dabbed-description-for-lack-of-a-name. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:10, January 9, 2019 (UTC) | ::::@Danniesen: you write ‘''Case File'' is valid, yes, but it is second-rate compared to the episode’. What happened to 'all sources are equal'? Even novelizations are now considered fully on par with any other story, and the ''Case Files'' are ''more'' of an independent entity than ''those''. | ||
::::I mean, if we had two conflicting ''nicknames'', I'd probably agree with you to go with the televised one, as it's the one that most people will know. But this is different — we are weighing the name given by the webcast versus a dabbed-description-for-lack-of-a-name. | |||
:::::@OncomingStorm: Hm… I see what you mean, but ''The Ux'' and ''The Remnants'' are both established as the name for the entire species, and are all ''plural''. Whereas here, it's singular, and as Danniesen noticed ''doesn't'' correspond to the actual species name as given in the peiosde — which would be 'Reconnaissance ''Scout'' Dalek'. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:10, January 9, 2019 (UTC) | |||
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Although the Case Files are valid and names from the Files CAN be used, I am against calling it "The Reconnaissance Dalek". Seems both wrong and on the nose for an in-universe article like this one. If it should be changed I'd say it should be called "Reconnaissance Scout Dalek (Resolution)". --DCLM ☎ 18:12, January 9, 2019 (UTC)
- It's the name by which an in-universe character who encountered it chose to call it — no different from how the Dalek in Dalek is known to us as "Metaltron", also an arguably "wrong" and "on-the-name" nickname given to a Dalek by a character who encountered it. Similarly, I don't think Rusty or Lumpy chose those names, and the arguably-inaccuracy and on-the-nosed-ness of both is, I think, obvious.
- So I think all precedents are for us to use an arguably-inaccurate or somewhat silly nickname, over just "Species Name (Episode)", when no true name is given. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 18:17, January 9, 2019 (UTC)
- Those names are all used in the narrative of those stories in which they appear. Case File is valid, yes, but it is second-rate compared to the episode to which they are attached. --DCLM ☎ 18:20, January 9, 2019 (UTC)
- I don't really see how "the Reconnaissance Dalek" is much different from "the Ux" or "the Remnants". If we have pages at Ux and Remnant, this one could very well be Reconnaissance Dalek (Resolution). OncomingStorm12th ☎ 18:25, January 9, 2019 (UTC)
- Those names are all used in the narrative of those stories in which they appear. Case File is valid, yes, but it is second-rate compared to the episode to which they are attached. --DCLM ☎ 18:20, January 9, 2019 (UTC)
- @Danniesen: you write ‘Case File is valid, yes, but it is second-rate compared to the episode’. What happened to 'all sources are equal'? Even novelizations are now considered fully on par with any other story, and the Case Files are more of an independent entity than those.
- I mean, if we had two conflicting nicknames, I'd probably agree with you to go with the televised one, as it's the one that most people will know. But this is different — we are weighing the name given by the webcast versus a dabbed-description-for-lack-of-a-name.
- @OncomingStorm: Hm… I see what you mean, but The Ux and The Remnants are both established as the name for the entire species, and are all plural. Whereas here, it's singular, and as Danniesen noticed doesn't correspond to the actual species name as given in the peiosde — which would be 'Reconnaissance Scout Dalek'. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 19:10, January 9, 2019 (UTC)
