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:: There aren’t any short stories in the 2021 annual except The Guide to the Dark Times. Usually there’s comics and short stories dispersed throughout that are separated from the sketchy framing narrative, but in this case there isn’t except the one story I mentioned. Everything else is part of the so-called sketchy framing narrative. To try and claim these are short stories in their own right and separate from the framing narrative is still wrong. No one here has claimed that the framing narrative would make Pest of Paternoster Row and Zorgo the Terrible the same story. They’re separate in their own right to the framing narrative. That’s not the case here and to claim otherwise would be misleading. [[User:SarahJaneFan|SarahJaneFan]] [[User talk:SarahJaneFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:20, November 4, 2020 (UTC) | :: There aren’t any short stories in the 2021 annual except The Guide to the Dark Times. Usually there’s comics and short stories dispersed throughout that are separated from the sketchy framing narrative, but in this case there isn’t except the one story I mentioned. Everything else is part of the so-called sketchy framing narrative. To try and claim these are short stories in their own right and separate from the framing narrative is still wrong. No one here has claimed that the framing narrative would make Pest of Paternoster Row and Zorgo the Terrible the same story. They’re separate in their own right to the framing narrative. That’s not the case here and to claim otherwise would be misleading. [[User:SarahJaneFan|SarahJaneFan]] [[User talk:SarahJaneFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:20, November 4, 2020 (UTC) | ||
::: All the various stories (prose and game), and non-narrative features, in the 2021 Annual are separately listed in the Table of Contents, on the same terms as ''[[The Guide to the Dark Times (short story)|The Guide to the Dark Times]]''. I frankly have no idea where you're coming from here when claiming ''The Guide…'' is any different from, say, ''[[The Doctor vs the Master (short story)|The Doctor vs the Master]]''. Or that the 2021 Annual is different from (for example) the 2016 Annual. Or for that matter from the 20''20'' Annual, which mock-presents all its contents as part of the TARDIS's information systems being displayed on the TARDIS scanner. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:24, November 4, 2020 (UTC) | ::: All the various stories (prose and game), and non-narrative features, in the 2021 Annual are separately listed in the Table of Contents, on the same terms as ''[[The Guide to the Dark Times (short story)|The Guide to the Dark Times]]''. I frankly have no idea where you're coming from here when claiming ''The Guide…'' is any different from, say, ''[[The Doctor vs the Master (short story)|The Doctor vs the Master]]''. Or that the 2021 Annual is different from (for example) the 2016 Annual. Or for that matter from the 20''20'' Annual, which mock-presents all its contents as part of the TARDIS's information systems being displayed on the TARDIS scanner. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:24, November 4, 2020 (UTC) | ||
:: I wasn't proposing ''anything'' yet. But since you brought up ''Zodiac'' and referred to ''[[Introduction and links (short story)|Introduction and links]]'', if I were to propose a change, that is essentially what I'd propose - and I don't see how this is a drastic change. '''The framing narrative would be its own little short story''', and by no means have to include every single story within the annual, just as is the case with ''Zodiac''. | |||
:: I would indeed argue that some items such as ''Meet the Fam'' should actually be part of this linking material, and in becoming so would [[T:VS|provide the narrative]] for the material. But, if I'm correct in my assumption that such linking material, and all the games and such, would be valid (which I invite you to challenge, as you neglected to do so in your latest reply) then '''most of the other stories can remain separate''', but could be viewed in the light of this material. | |||
:: There is very little difference between this and ''[[Short Trips: Zodiac]]''. I am not arguing for anything drastic, merely to follow precedent and intentionality. The only reason this proposition might not be viable, is if anyone can successfully argue that anything in the annual would not be deemed valid when viewed under the intention that it was written by the Doctor, in which case I would agree we have no choice ''but'' to consider each story independently. [[User:Danochy|Danochy]] [[User talk:Danochy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:49, November 4, 2020 (UTC) | |||