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One of these things is not like the other! While "first" is an indispensable part of the infobox, phrasing it as "First seen in" really only makes sense for TV and comic stories: nobody is "seen" in a prose or audio. Changing it to "First appearance" would only add three characters (making it the same length as "Main voice actor") and remove this weird ambiguity. Could this be changed here and in other infoboxes with the same variable? – [[User:NateBumber|<span title="User:NateBumber">N8</span>]] ([[User_talk:NateBumber|<span title="Leave me a note">☎</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/NateBumber|<span title="Spy on my edits">👁️</span>]]) 15:58, February 20, 2020 (UTC)
One of these things is not like the other! While "first" is an indispensable part of the infobox, phrasing it as "First seen in" really only makes sense for TV and comic stories: nobody is "seen" in a prose or audio. Changing it to "First appearance" would only add three characters (making it the same length as "Main voice actor") and remove this weird ambiguity. Could this be changed here and in other infoboxes with the same variable? – [[User:NateBumber|<span title="User:NateBumber">N8</span>]] ([[User_talk:NateBumber|<span title="Leave me a note">☎</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/NateBumber|<span title="Spy on my edits">👁️</span>]]) 15:58, February 20, 2020 (UTC)
: I concur with [[User:NateBumber|N8]]. Now that it's been pointed out, "First appearance" would be vastly more appropriate. [[User:Epsilon the Eternal|Epsilon the Eternal]] [[User talk:Epsilon the Eternal|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:01, September 9, 2020 (UTC)
: I concur with [[User:NateBumber|N8]]. Now that it's been pointed out, "First appearance" would be vastly more appropriate. [[User:Epsilon the Eternal|Epsilon the Eternal]] [[User talk:Epsilon the Eternal|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:01, September 9, 2020 (UTC)
::: {{Done}}. Really a straightforward application of [[T:NPOV]]. And even within visual media, a character will sometimes "appear" as a disembodied voice, occasionally because they ''don't'' have a physical form in the first place; that's still their first appearance, but they're not ''seen''. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:21, 27 December 2020 (UTC)


== Pets ==
== Pets ==
Something of an odd request, but would it be at all possible for a new section of this infobox to be added, for pets?  
Something of an odd request, but would it be at all possible for a new section of this infobox to be added, for pets?  
I ask this,  as many individuals in the DWU have pets, and I think it would be a useful section. [[User:Epsilon the Eternal|Epsilon the Eternal]] [[User talk:Epsilon the Eternal|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:01, September 9, 2020 (UTC)
I ask this,  as many individuals in the DWU have pets, and I think it would be a useful section. [[User:Epsilon the Eternal|Epsilon the Eternal]] [[User talk:Epsilon the Eternal|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:01, September 9, 2020 (UTC)
: {{Done}}. Suggestion has been here a while and seems to make sense with no drawbacks. There's certainly value in being able to directly link [[Fifi]] from [[Helen A]]'s infobox and so on. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:21, 27 December 2020 (UTC)


== New field proposals ==
== New field proposals ==


Recently, I've been thinking about some new fields for this template, which are for aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, and birth and death dates. These should be useful additions to the template, if anybody could please add them. <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><tt>'''Epsilon'''</tt></span>]]''' '''[[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 15:14, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Recently, I've been thinking about some new fields for this template, which are for aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, and birth and death dates. These should be useful additions to the template, if anybody could please add them. <div style="background-color:#0E234E; border: solid 0.5px gold; display: inline; white-space: nowrap;">[[doctorwho:user:Epsilon the Eternal|<span style="background:#0E234E; color:white"><tt>'''Epsilon'''</tt></span>]]''' '''[[doctorwho:user talk:Epsilon the Eternal|📯]] [[doctorwho:special:Contributions/Epsilon the Eternal|📂]]</div> 15:14, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
:: These sound basically reasonable, but it occurs to me that if we add aunts and uncles, we might as well also add in cousins. After all, [[Lungbarrow (novel)|in certain accounts]], cousins are ''the only'' type of family relationships that exist within [[Time Lord|certain major DWU species]] outside of special cases. Thoughts, anyone? [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:21, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

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partner killed by design?

Recently, I saw a field "partner" being used for the cases of intimate relationships that are not marriages (see, for instance, Charlie Smith. It seems that this functionality has disappeared. I'm just wondering if that was a collateral of some other changes or a conscious deletion? Amorkuz 20:26, April 24, 2017 (UTC)

Returned to infobox. Thanks for catching it!
czechout<staff />    02:50: Tue 23 May 2017

Phrasing

Maybe “More behind the scenes” stuff should be changed to “Another behind the scenes moment” to make it more formal.{{raw:w:papi}} 11:10, August 16, 2017 (UTC)

"First seen in" phrasing?

Right now, there are three variables in this template regarding appearances:

  • "first", which renders in the infobox as "First seen in"
  • "only", which renders in the infobox as "Appearance"
  • "appearances", which renders in the infobox as "Appearances"

One of these things is not like the other! While "first" is an indispensable part of the infobox, phrasing it as "First seen in" really only makes sense for TV and comic stories: nobody is "seen" in a prose or audio. Changing it to "First appearance" would only add three characters (making it the same length as "Main voice actor") and remove this weird ambiguity. Could this be changed here and in other infoboxes with the same variable? – N8 (/👁️) 15:58, February 20, 2020 (UTC)

I concur with N8. Now that it's been pointed out, "First appearance" would be vastly more appropriate. Epsilon the Eternal 01:01, September 9, 2020 (UTC)
Tardis Blue check mark.png Done!. Really a straightforward application of T:NPOV. And even within visual media, a character will sometimes "appear" as a disembodied voice, occasionally because they don't have a physical form in the first place; that's still their first appearance, but they're not seen. Scrooge MacDuck 17:21, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

Pets

Something of an odd request, but would it be at all possible for a new section of this infobox to be added, for pets? I ask this, as many individuals in the DWU have pets, and I think it would be a useful section. Epsilon the Eternal 01:01, September 9, 2020 (UTC)

Tardis Blue check mark.png Done!. Suggestion has been here a while and seems to make sense with no drawbacks. There's certainly value in being able to directly link Fifi from Helen A's infobox and so on. Scrooge MacDuck 17:21, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

New field proposals

Recently, I've been thinking about some new fields for this template, which are for aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, and birth and death dates. These should be useful additions to the template, if anybody could please add them.

15:14, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

These sound basically reasonable, but it occurs to me that if we add aunts and uncles, we might as well also add in cousins. After all, in certain accounts, cousins are the only type of family relationships that exist within certain major DWU species outside of special cases. Thoughts, anyone? Scrooge MacDuck 17:21, 27 December 2020 (UTC)