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: Never underestimate the importance of [[Happy_prime|Recreational Mathematics]], as the Doctor might say. Numbers have come into play in a number of episodes, like [[42 (TV story)]] and [[The Doctor's Daughter]], and as in-jokes in Series 5 and 6. Eleven, as an in-joke referring to his eleventh persona, appears repeatedly around the Doctor: for example, it was his jersey number in [[The Lodger (TV story)]]. Seven makes a lot of sense for Amy, since she is (or was, before the end of this episode) fixated upon in her seven-year-old fantasies of an imaginary friend. Either could be a coincidence, and together they're maybe a stronger coincidence: but given that the rest of the doors in the hotel seem to have three-digit numbers, these especially low numbers on the Doctor's door and Amy's make them stand out from the rest. | : Never underestimate the importance of [[Happy_prime|Recreational Mathematics]], as the Doctor might say. Numbers have come into play in a number of episodes, like [[42 (TV story)]] and [[The Doctor's Daughter]], and as in-jokes in Series 5 and 6. Eleven, as an in-joke referring to his eleventh persona, appears repeatedly around the Doctor: for example, it was his jersey number in [[The Lodger (TV story)]]. Seven makes a lot of sense for Amy, since she is (or was, before the end of this episode) fixated upon in her seven-year-old fantasies of an imaginary friend. Either could be a coincidence, and together they're maybe a stronger coincidence: but given that the rest of the doors in the hotel seem to have three-digit numbers, these especially low numbers on the Doctor's door and Amy's make them stand out from the rest. | ||
: Most of the room numbers are clearly generic because they are reused. In the opening sequence, the clown room is 214, the photographer is 215, but the gorilla is again in 214. Later, the partially-clothed gym teacher is in 158, and Howie's women are in 155; everyone then moves up a floor to the Weeping Angels are in 216, | : Most of the room numbers are clearly generic because they are reused. In the opening sequence, the clown room is 214, the photographer is 215, but the gorilla is again in 214. Later, the partially-clothed gym teacher is in 158, and Howie's women are in 155; everyone then moves up a floor to the Weeping Angels are in 216, and Rory's fire escape becomes 219. All the rooms whose numbers we see have three digits. That makes eleven, being two digits, unusual, and seven is highly unusual in that it's just one digit. Even more odd is that the room across the hall from 7 seems to have three digits on its plaque. The authors are using these two short numbers, 7 and 11, in a way that makes them stand out from the rest of the numbers in the hotel. It's not visually subtle at all, but plainly intentional. | ||
: Whether or not the townhouse's blue door, numbered six, is another in-joke or nod to a TV show is another question, but after two doors associated with main characters and numbered significantly and with obvious intent, it's hard not to think about a big, Tardis-blue door with a visible number 6 on it.[[Special:Contributions/98.180.51.124|98.180.51.124]] 03:37, September 19, 2011 (UTC) | : Whether or not the townhouse's blue door, numbered six, is another in-joke or nod to a TV show is another question, but after two doors associated with main characters and numbered significantly and with obvious intent, it's hard not to think about a big, Tardis-blue door with a visible number 6 on it.[[Special:Contributions/98.180.51.124|98.180.51.124]] 03:37, September 19, 2011 (UTC) | ||
:: The 7 as a reference to 7-year-old Amelia makes sense. But the reference to the 7th companion really doesn't. For one thing, Moffat has always stressed that he's continuing the 1963 series, not just the 2005 series, which means it's off by a few dozen. And, even within just the new series, you have to pick and choose pretty carefully to get Amy to be number 7. You have to start with a definition of "companion" that includes Mickey and Sarah Jane but excludes, e.g., Jackie; then specify that they were in multiple stories (not just multiple episodes, or Wilf would count, and possibly Cassie and Jimmy) as a guest companion (not just in multiple stories period, otherwise Adam would count, and Wilf again), and that they're ordered by when they became a companion rather than when they first appeared (so Amy is before River), and so on. It's not that it's impossible to get the number 7, it's that it's just as easy to get many other numbers. For example, going by the information on this wiki, Amy is number 9. --[[Special:Contributions/70.36.140.19|70.36.140.19]] 04:04, September 23, 2011 (UTC) | |||
:: Also, it's hard to imagine someone would deliberately put in a reference to the Prisoner's number 6 flat and not use the distinctive Village typeface (or at least Albertus, which it was based on, and which looks enough like it that you'd get the reference, but is under a different and easier-to-license copyright). --[[Special:Contributions/70.36.140.19|70.36.140.19]] 04:33, September 23, 2011 (UTC) | |||
Maybe the six is referring to "Series 6" a cute tribute to nearing the end. | |||
[[User:Moogleknight24|Moogleknight24]] <sup>[[User talk:Moogleknight24|talk to me]]</sup> 13:01, June 6, 2012 (UTC)Moogleknight24 | |||
Also Amy being the Seventh Multi-Story companion. Did you forget that the Doctor had about 30 companions before her? | |||
[[User:Moogleknight24|Moogleknight24]] [[User talk:Moogleknight24|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:54, September 23, 2012 (UTC)Moogleknight24 | |||
== Angels == | == Angels == | ||
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I just noticed ''Blink'' is listed, but Amy isn't present at the time of that episode.[[User:Tivis014|Tivis014]] 14:15, September 18, 2011 (UTC) | I just noticed ''Blink'' is listed, but Amy isn't present at the time of that episode.[[User:Tivis014|Tivis014]] 14:15, September 18, 2011 (UTC) | ||
About the Angels, if anything that holds the visage of an angel itself becomes an angel, shouldn't the mock-angels have been real? [[Special:Contributions/71.59.219.221|71.59.219.221]]<sup>[[User talk:71.59.219.221#top|talk to me]]</sup> 01:42, June 6, 2012 (UTC) | |||
Well, in the Byzantium it seems to have taken a really long time for the camera footage to become an angel. (Wasn't it crashed for like 10 years or more?) | |||
For all we know the Angels in the room were only there for five seconds and didn't have enough time to become real. I believe that the images only exist if you're in the room to see them thus the angels vanished when everyone left. | |||
[[User:Moogleknight24|Moogleknight24]] <sup>[[User talk:Moogleknight24|talk to me]]</sup> 12:51, June 6, 2012 (UTC)Moogleknight24 | |||
: They actually were present at the Byzantium Crash. And the Doctor also explained that "angels aren't dormant. They're just VERY patient". (Unsigned comment on APR/27/2013) | |||
:: It hadn't been crashed for very long, there was still radiation there to feed them. Moving on, the Angels in the Byzantium were hurt, accounting for their slowness. The Doctor and River both state that hurt Angels aren't as capable of harm and aren't as fast. In any case, perhaps it requires some form of link to a real Angel to cause an image to become an Angel - an Angel has to be aware of it. --[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:16, April 27, 2013 (UTC) | |||
I think it also has something to do with it being a mock-up of an an angel, a recreation and not a image captured of an angel or a holographic form built from a real angel.--[[User:Licourtrix|Licourtrix]] [[User talk:Licourtrix|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:34, September 20, 2012 (UTC) | |||
You have to recall that even a drawing can become an Angel. Which is why in Time of Angels the book explaining them had no illustrations. | |||
[[User:Moogleknight24|Moogleknight24]] [[User talk:Moogleknight24|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:48, September 23, 2012 (UTC)Moogleknight24 | |||
== "Praise Him" continuity? == | == "Praise Him" continuity? == | ||
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No, in my opinion, it shouldn't be added to continuity. It's of no significance outside of this story. As for "season enders", I don't this one will crop up.--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 20:10, September 19, 2011 (UTC) | No, in my opinion, it shouldn't be added to continuity. It's of no significance outside of this story. As for "season enders", I don't this one will crop up.--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 20:10, September 19, 2011 (UTC) | ||
<p style="margin-left: 40px; ">I think Boblipton is right. It doesn't matter that one user thinks it will be significant, or that another user thinks it won't; it matters whether it actually turns out to be significant in a week and a half, and we can wait until then to find out more easily than we can establish who's guessing right. --[[Special:Contributions/70.36.140.19|70.36.140.19]] 04:07, September 23, 2011 (UTC)</p> | |||
The phrase "Praise Him" is used in everyday modern religion. I think it's just a coincidence. | |||
[[User:Moogleknight24|Moogleknight24]] <sup>[[User talk:Moogleknight24|talk to me]]</sup> 12:54, June 6, 2012 (UTC)Moogleknight24 | |||
:Considering that the Doctor as the Lonely God has become something of a theme, I'd say it IS significant - but here only as foreshadowing of the ending, where the Doctor finds the monster is talking about him.[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] | |||
When you phrase it like that, it sounds more like Steven Moffat is saying that to us. | |||
"Watch Doctor Who... Buy more merchandise... Praise him..." | |||
[[User:Moogleknight24|Moogleknight24]] [[User talk:Moogleknight24|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:46, March 10, 2013 (UTC)Moogleknight24 | |||
: Ha ha. It's also part of the theme where the Doctor is, slowly yet constantly, becoming something that he hates. It's yet another law of the Time Lords, broken, even if unintentionally. He plays god - the ultimate moral authority - on a regular basis. I giggle, thinking that he's probably the angels that visited in the Bible or all those stories of Odin testing people's hospitality. [[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:44, March 10, 2013 (UTC) | |||
Well he did admit to being in the story of the Birth of Jesus. (I had gotten the last room) | |||
[[User:Moogleknight24|Moogleknight24]] [[User talk:Moogleknight24|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:11, March 12, 2013 (UTC)Moogleknight24 | |||
:Come to think of it, Davies was doing it, too, wasn't he? That bit with the Face of Boe, and playing him off the Dalek Emperor who was calling himself God. --[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:43, March 12, 2013 (UTC) | |||
== The Doctor's Gifts == | == The Doctor's Gifts == | ||
I don't know exactly what to classify those gifts as. Production note? I did note that the door to the house the Doctor brought them was Tardis blue, just like the door on Amy's house before she was married. I don't know what kind of car that was. | I don't know exactly what to classify those gifts as. Production note? I did note that the door to the house the Doctor brought them was Tardis blue, just like the door on Amy's house before she was married. I don't know what kind of car that was. | ||
: I wonder if the house was in Leadsworth. Hopefully so. [[Special:Contributions/78.105.95.95|78.105.95.95]] 19:49, September 20, 2011 (UTC) | |||
: The car is a series-3 Jaguar E-type (aka XK-E), from the early 70s. It seems to have the US bumper, the headlight trim from the series-1, and the wheels from a series-1 XJS, which implies that it was restored and customized in the 2010s, rather than picked up in the 70s and transported through time. --[[Special:Contributions/70.36.140.19|70.36.140.19]] 04:26, September 23, 2011 (UTC) | |||
== Mickey? == | == Mickey? == | ||
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:He calls Rory "Beakey," a reference to his nose. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] 14:40, September 20, 2011 (UTC) | :He calls Rory "Beakey," a reference to his nose. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] 14:40, September 20, 2011 (UTC) | ||
Sorry, no, he says A-mee And B-kee, as in A and B. | |||
:OR it's both. Given the Doctor's playful reliance on cleverness, I'd say that.[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:59, March 6, 2013 (UTC) | |||
== "Mad Man with a box" continuity == | == "Mad Man with a box" continuity == | ||
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:Go on then, add it.--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 16:08, September 20, 2011 (UTC) | :Go on then, add it.--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 16:08, September 20, 2011 (UTC) | ||
===Dropping Gibbis off=== | |||
The article said, "The Doctor uses the TARDIS to drop Gibbis off on his homeworld…" Rewatching the episode, all Gibbis asks for is a lift to the nearest galaxy, and he's never heard from or mentioned again, so we have no idea where the Doctor dropped him off. So, I changed it to just say "The Doctor uses the TARDIS to drop Gibbis off…". --[[Special:Contributions/70.36.140.19|70.36.140.19]] 04:28, September 23, 2011 (UTC) | |||
:Not changing it back, but I'd like to note that the figure of thought for most people is that farther away is more trouble. Gibbis doesn't know the capabilities of the TARDIS can (ordinarily) make the difference irrelevant.[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:02, March 6, 2013 (UTC) | |||
It's good of you to notify people fo the reasons for the change, but the talk page is not the place for it until there is a dispute. Until then, just note the reasons for the change in the box on the upper left. If a dispute does develop in which someone changes it back, then it's a good thinkg to discuss it here. But until that happens, just assume that other people are a little sloppier than you are. In the meantime, thanks for the change. I think it's a good one.[[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 18:20, September 25, 2011 (UTC) | |||
I don't think we should tell people not to leave a notice here. It doesn't take up much space, and if there's a contentious edit, wikia policy is to check the talk page first, so leaving a notice here is probably the easiest way to say it.--[[User:Licourtrix|Licourtrix]] [[User talk:Licourtrix|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:38, September 20, 2012 (UTC) | |||
==Setting== | |||
The location box should say [[Prison ship (The God Complex)|Prison ship]], [[21st century]], judging by the clothes worn by Lucy, Joe, Howie and Rita. [[Special:Contributions/31.51.109.247|31.51.109.247]]<sup>[[User talk:31.51.109.247#top|talk to me]]</sup> 17:04, July 1, 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Assuming 21st century based on clothing is a violation of [[T:NO RW]]. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:42, July 1, 2013 (UTC) | |||
== Bow-tie == | |||
We've seen in The Impossible Astronaut that the near-death Doctor was wearing a purple bow-tie. In this episode I noticed he did as well, just pointing it out because I've seen nobody else did. Any remarks? | |||
[[Special:Contributions/186.56.187.63|186.56.187.63]]<sup>[[User talk:186.56.187.63#top|talk to me]]</sup> 23:55, July 4, 2013 (UTC)ZeOutcast | |||
== Marcus Wilson picture == | |||
I can see clearly a picture of Marcus Wilson among those pictures and yet it is not noted in the article. [[Special:Contributions/49.3.72.79|49.3.72.79]]<sup>[[User talk:49.3.72.79#top|talk to me]]</sup> 06:49, September 23, 2020 (UTC) | |||
== What did he say? == | |||
Hi, I did not watch all episodes of Doctor who yet and none of the classic ones. But as far as I know to this point, the TARDIS telepathically translates other languages between the TARDIS travelers and other people. | |||
If this is true, who could the humans in the hotel speak with Gibbis before the TARDIS arrived? | |||
Perhaps, as the TARDIS exists in all times (The Doctor's Wife), the telepathic translation could work even before the TARDIS arrives. | |||
Or, Gibbis species use some sort of on-body translators, if every now and than another ruler shows up, probably speaking another language. | |||
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