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:: How do you know that he is his full brother? People that I know who are half-siblings don't always state that, they just call themselves brothers / sisters. Also, some accounts have the Doctor being loomed so his "brother" is not that straight forward. [[User:RadMatter|RadMatter]] [[User talk:RadMatter|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:57, 5 February 2021 (UTC) | :: How do you know that he is his full brother? People that I know who are half-siblings don't always state that, they just call themselves brothers / sisters. Also, some accounts have the Doctor being loomed so his "brother" is not that straight forward. [[User:RadMatter|RadMatter]] [[User talk:RadMatter|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:57, 5 February 2021 (UTC) | ||
::: Traditionally looms produce [[Cousin]]s and no siblings at all, so whether he is a brother or half-brother, Brax's existence is evidence that if the Doctor was loomed, it wasn't under the traditional circumstances. (But it's easy to imagine how the Doctor and Brax could be siblings ''and'' loomed. Just to give an example, it's easy to imagine Ulysses and Penelope Gate using the Loom of Lungbarrow on their own, out of schedule, thus producing one or two children who would ''specifically'' be theirs.) | |||
::: It is true that half-siblings sometimes refer to themselves as just "brother" and "sister" in casual conversation, but I think it would be more speculative than not to dwell overmuch on this possibility if nothing actively suggests it. [[Birth of a Renegade (short story)|Some]] [[Lungbarrow (novel)|accounts]] have demonstrated that it is ''possible'' to view the Hartnell era under the lens that the Doctor and Susan are not actually related, and he is merely a kind of "adopted grandfather-figure" to her; but that is not a possibility we should have awarded any significant length to, had those accounts not put forward the alternative, I should think. | |||
::: …Also, the following is too speculative to be the bedrock of Wiki policy on its own, but being frank: ''if'' anybody puts forward Brax being a half-brother to the Doctor, it's going to be in the context of their sharing a (Time Lord) ''father'', with the Doctor being the only son of Ulysses' human consort while Braxiatel is a full-blooded Time Lord. Not only has nobody suggested the Doctor and Brax could just share a mother, but the suggestion that they would is ''quite'' unlikely. | |||
::: I dunno. I definitely see what you're saying, but… I think the way I'd put it is that you seem to be saying that "brother" is a term which can ''correctly'' be applied to full siblings or to half-siblings. Whereas in my view, "brother" ''means'' "full sibling," but can sometimes be used ''in place'' of "half-sibling" for expediency's sake in casual conversations — such that if a source ''just'' says "brother," the default should be that they do mean "brother," not "half-brother". [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:09, 5 February 2021 (UTC) | |||