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I agree with what the editor who placed the rename tag suggests: "Asquith Slitheen" is technically a conjectural name, whereas "Asquith (Slitheen)" or "Asquith (Slitheen family)" are not based upon conjecture. Personally, I'd opt for "Asquith (Slitheen)", unless there's a specific requirement for the word "family" to be used. [[User:Thalek Prime Overseer|Thalek Prime Overseer]] [[User talk:Thalek Prime Overseer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:10, 26 February 2021 (UTC) | I agree with what the editor who placed the rename tag suggests: "Asquith Slitheen" is technically a conjectural name, whereas "Asquith (Slitheen)" or "Asquith (Slitheen family)" are not based upon conjecture. Personally, I'd opt for "Asquith (Slitheen)", unless there's a specific requirement for the word "family" to be used. [[User:Thalek Prime Overseer|Thalek Prime Overseer]] [[User talk:Thalek Prime Overseer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:10, 26 February 2021 (UTC) | ||
::I personally understood the name as being a non-conjectural "the 'Asquith' Slitheen", not as suggesting that we are dealing with a Mr Asquith Slitheen. We could alternatively do "[[Slitheen Asquith]]", perhaps. Don't much like the parenthetical options, as they confuse the issue with regards to [[T:DAB]]; seeing a page named "Asquith (Slitheen)", my default would be to assume that this is a character who appeared in a story called "[[Slitheen (TV story)]]", you see? [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:21, 26 February 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::I don't see. We have a page called [[Fifth Avenue (Manhattan)]]; are we supposed to assume that there is a story called ''Manhattan''? So there is precedent for what [[User:Thalek Prime Overseer]] suggests. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:19, 27 February 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::Oh, I'm not saying [[User:Thalek Prime Overseer]]'s suggestions are ''against policy''. Merely that they are ''potentially'' confusing, so in my opinion we should ''prioritise'' alternatives that don't present this potential for confusion. | |||
::::(Also, I'm actually unsure why the page you cite isn't [[Fifth Avenue, Manhattan]]. Even laying aside the Wiki's dabbing policy, isn't ''that'' the usual format for addresses and such? We've got things like [[Providence, Rhode Island]] already.) -[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:25, 27 February 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::::Ok well kind of off topic for this page, but there are almost 90,000 pages on this wiki and there are quite a lot of inconsistencies in naming as well as other policies. Trying to clean up the confusion is at this point a job that would take some pretty heavy work. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:32, 27 February 2021 (UTC) | |||
::: True. Another topic for when the Forums are back, eh? In the meantime and back on topic, what would be your preferred name for this page, out of the various suggestions thus far? [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:37, 27 February 2021 (UTC) | |||
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Figured I'd start a discussion on this page's rename tag, which appears to have been left up for a very long time.
I agree with what the editor who placed the rename tag suggests: "Asquith Slitheen" is technically a conjectural name, whereas "Asquith (Slitheen)" or "Asquith (Slitheen family)" are not based upon conjecture. Personally, I'd opt for "Asquith (Slitheen)", unless there's a specific requirement for the word "family" to be used. Thalek Prime Overseer ☎ 00:10, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- I personally understood the name as being a non-conjectural "the 'Asquith' Slitheen", not as suggesting that we are dealing with a Mr Asquith Slitheen. We could alternatively do "Slitheen Asquith", perhaps. Don't much like the parenthetical options, as they confuse the issue with regards to T:DAB; seeing a page named "Asquith (Slitheen)", my default would be to assume that this is a character who appeared in a story called "Slitheen (TV story)", you see? Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 00:21, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- I don't see. We have a page called Fifth Avenue (Manhattan); are we supposed to assume that there is a story called Manhattan? So there is precedent for what User:Thalek Prime Overseer suggests. Shambala108 ☎ 01:19, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Oh, I'm not saying User:Thalek Prime Overseer's suggestions are against policy. Merely that they are potentially confusing, so in my opinion we should prioritise alternatives that don't present this potential for confusion.
- I don't see. We have a page called Fifth Avenue (Manhattan); are we supposed to assume that there is a story called Manhattan? So there is precedent for what User:Thalek Prime Overseer suggests. Shambala108 ☎ 01:19, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- I personally understood the name as being a non-conjectural "the 'Asquith' Slitheen", not as suggesting that we are dealing with a Mr Asquith Slitheen. We could alternatively do "Slitheen Asquith", perhaps. Don't much like the parenthetical options, as they confuse the issue with regards to T:DAB; seeing a page named "Asquith (Slitheen)", my default would be to assume that this is a character who appeared in a story called "Slitheen (TV story)", you see? Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 00:21, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
- (Also, I'm actually unsure why the page you cite isn't Fifth Avenue, Manhattan. Even laying aside the Wiki's dabbing policy, isn't that the usual format for addresses and such? We've got things like Providence, Rhode Island already.) -Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 01:25, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- Ok well kind of off topic for this page, but there are almost 90,000 pages on this wiki and there are quite a lot of inconsistencies in naming as well as other policies. Trying to clean up the confusion is at this point a job that would take some pretty heavy work. Shambala108 ☎ 01:32, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
- True. Another topic for when the Forums are back, eh? In the meantime and back on topic, what would be your preferred name for this page, out of the various suggestions thus far? Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 01:37, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
