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The fact that this is billed as being the last story where the Doctor interferes or becomes part of the timeline of a historical character as he main part of the story ... Could this then be the last of the stories that could be described as a "purely historical" story.{{Unsigned|TheMasterRace}}
 
:It is usually considered that ''[[The Highlanders (TV story)|The Highlanders]]'' is the last true historical.[[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:10, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
 
==Error removed==
I removed a bit from the intro where it said the next historical to feature a prominent figure was Mark of the Rani. First, Mark of the Rani isn't considered a true historical because it still involved major science fiction elements; in the context of Doctor Who, "historicals" are those stories where the Doctor and the TARDIS are the only SF elements. The Gunfighters is this, as is The Highlanders, and the next story of this nature was Black Orchid. Mark of the Rani featured the Rani and the Master and major SF elements. Even if one wanted to consider Mark an historical, citing it would still be incorrect because by this criteria the earlier story The King's Demons involves the historical figure King John. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.233.86|68.146.233.86]]<sup>[[User talk:68.146.233.86#top|talk to me]]</sup> 17:46, March 12, 2016 (UTC)
 
:Also, The Highlanders page claims that Solicitor Grey is a "real-world historical person".  I presume prominence is subjective.  [[Special:Contributions/165.225.80.59|165.225.80.59]]<sup>[[User talk:165.225.80.59#top|talk to me]]</sup> 12:03, August 9, 2016 (UTC)
 
== Johnny Ringo - a main enemy? ==
 
Opening a point of discussion on the matter of Ringo and his placement in the infobox as a main enemy. It's currently marked as a disputed statement, but it's not as such something that we'll be able to decide through any citations - instead we need to actually consider if he's viable as an antagonist within the story to be included there. [[User:JDPManjoume|JDPManjoume]] [[User talk:JDPManjoume|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:57, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
:It's actually against policy for something in the infobox to be marked "disputed". If it's disputed then it doesn't belong in the infobox. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:46, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
::I haven't watched the serial in a while, but I do remember that Ringo wasn't even in the first half and only joined the fight because the Clantons asked him, so I reckon we can at least take him out of the infobox. [[User:LauraBatham|LauraBatham]] [[User talk:LauraBatham|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:05, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
:::Admin permission hereby given. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:50, 7 April 2021 (UTC)

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Question[[edit source]]

The fact that this is billed as being the last story where the Doctor interferes or becomes part of the timeline of a historical character as he main part of the story ... Could this then be the last of the stories that could be described as a "purely historical" story.– The preceding unsigned comment was added by TheMasterRace (talk • contribs) .

It is usually considered that The Highlanders is the last true historical.Amorkuz ☎ 23:10, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

Error removed[[edit source]]

I removed a bit from the intro where it said the next historical to feature a prominent figure was Mark of the Rani. First, Mark of the Rani isn't considered a true historical because it still involved major science fiction elements; in the context of Doctor Who, "historicals" are those stories where the Doctor and the TARDIS are the only SF elements. The Gunfighters is this, as is The Highlanders, and the next story of this nature was Black Orchid. Mark of the Rani featured the Rani and the Master and major SF elements. Even if one wanted to consider Mark an historical, citing it would still be incorrect because by this criteria the earlier story The King's Demons involves the historical figure King John. 68.146.233.86talk to me 17:46, March 12, 2016 (UTC)

Also, The Highlanders page claims that Solicitor Grey is a "real-world historical person". I presume prominence is subjective. 165.225.80.59talk to me 12:03, August 9, 2016 (UTC)

Johnny Ringo - a main enemy?[[edit source]]

Opening a point of discussion on the matter of Ringo and his placement in the infobox as a main enemy. It's currently marked as a disputed statement, but it's not as such something that we'll be able to decide through any citations - instead we need to actually consider if he's viable as an antagonist within the story to be included there. JDPManjoume ☎ 22:57, 6 April 2021 (UTC)

It's actually against policy for something in the infobox to be marked "disputed". If it's disputed then it doesn't belong in the infobox. Shambala108 ☎ 00:46, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
I haven't watched the serial in a while, but I do remember that Ringo wasn't even in the first half and only joined the fight because the Clantons asked him, so I reckon we can at least take him out of the infobox. LauraBatham ☎ 02:05, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
Admin permission hereby given. Shambala108 ☎ 03:50, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
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