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== Speculation ==
== Speculation ==
As the "Behind the scenes" section notes, the Doctor's dialogue in the episode is ambiguous as to whether "Mordee" refers to the people or the ship, and in the novelisation it's completely unclear whether he's just naming the colonists by {{w|synecdoche}}. For reference, here are all the uses of the word "Mordee" in the episode:
As the "Behind the scenes" section notes, the Doctor's dialogue in the episode is ambiguous as to whether "Mordee" refers to the people or the expedition, and in the novelisation it's completely unclear whether he's just naming the colonists by {{w|synecdoche}}. For reference, here are all the uses of the word "Mordee" in the episode:
{{quote|'Now I remember,' breathed the Doctor. 'The [[Mordee expedition]]. And I thought I was helping them!' ... 'When I was here before, the Mordee were having trouble with their new computer. I repaired and re-programmed it for them.'|''[[Doctor Who and the Face of Evil (novelisation)|Doctor Who and the Face of Evil]]''}}
{{quote|'Now I remember,' breathed the Doctor. 'The [[Mordee expedition]]. And I thought I was helping them!' ... 'When I was here before, the Mordee were having trouble with their new computer. I repaired and re-programmed it for them.'|''[[Doctor Who and the Face of Evil (novelisation)|Doctor Who and the Face of Evil]]''}}
Now, given that later sources ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Theatre of War (novel)|Theatre of War]]'', [[AUDIO]]: ''[[Disassembled (audio story)|Disassembled]]'') are quite clear that "Mordee" is the name of the [[planet (The Face of Evil)|planet]], I don't think there's any reason for this page to exist independent of [[Mordee expedition]]. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 02:00, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
Now, given that later sources ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Theatre of War (novel)|Theatre of War]]'', [[AUDIO]]: ''[[Disassembled (audio story)|Disassembled]]'') are quite clear that "Mordee" is the name of the [[planet (The Face of Evil)|planet]], I don't think there's any reason for this page to exist independent of [[Mordee expedition]]. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 02:00, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
::I'm not sure I agree. "The Mordee were having trouble…" isn't phrasing you'd use if 'Mordee' were only the name of the planet ("The Skaro were having trouble" to talk about the [[Dalek]]s? really?), and it also doesn't work with being simply a reference to the "Mordee expedition" where "Mordee" is simply the name of the planet the expedition is aiming for ("The Astra were having trouble…" to describe Astra Nine's predicament? nah). [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:23, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
:::That's a fair objection. I guess the way I was reading it would have been clearer if it said "Mordee was having trouble" rather than "The Mordee were having trouble" ... But given that he was certainly referring to the Mordee expedition, I still think we should move forward with the merger and cover the ambiguity on a single page. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 16:58, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

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Speculation[[edit source]]

As the "Behind the scenes" section notes, the Doctor's dialogue in the episode is ambiguous as to whether "Mordee" refers to the people or the expedition, and in the novelisation it's completely unclear whether he's just naming the colonists by synecdoche. For reference, here are all the uses of the word "Mordee" in the episode:

'Now I remember,' breathed the Doctor. 'The Mordee expedition. And I thought I was helping them!' ... 'When I was here before, the Mordee were having trouble with their new computer. I repaired and re-programmed it for them.''Doctor Who and the Face of Evil

Now, given that later sources (PROSE: Theatre of War, AUDIO: Disassembled) are quite clear that "Mordee" is the name of the planet, I don't think there's any reason for this page to exist independent of Mordee expedition. – n8 () 02:00, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

I'm not sure I agree. "The Mordee were having trouble…" isn't phrasing you'd use if 'Mordee' were only the name of the planet ("The Skaro were having trouble" to talk about the Daleks? really?), and it also doesn't work with being simply a reference to the "Mordee expedition" where "Mordee" is simply the name of the planet the expedition is aiming for ("The Astra were having trouble…" to describe Astra Nine's predicament? nah). Scrooge MacDuck 16:23, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
That's a fair objection. I guess the way I was reading it would have been clearer if it said "Mordee was having trouble" rather than "The Mordee were having trouble" ... But given that he was certainly referring to the Mordee expedition, I still think we should move forward with the merger and cover the ambiguity on a single page. – n8 () 16:58, 9 April 2021 (UTC)