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Presumably this doesn't include archival appearances? For example categorising ''[[The Day of the Doctor (TV story)|The Day of the Doctor]]'' for Hartnell, Troughton, and Pertwee. --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:23, June 5, 2018 (UTC) | Presumably this doesn't include archival appearances? For example categorising ''[[The Day of the Doctor (TV story)|The Day of the Doctor]]'' for Hartnell, Troughton, and Pertwee. --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:23, June 5, 2018 (UTC) | ||
::No, archival appearances don't count.[[User:MystExplorer|MystExplorer]] [[User talk:MystExplorer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:26, June 5, 2018 (UTC) | |||
:::Cool, just checking. --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:27, June 5, 2018 (UTC) | |||
::::No problem! And thanks for helping to fill out the category.[[User:MystExplorer|MystExplorer]] [[User talk:MystExplorer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:28, June 5, 2018 (UTC) | |||
== Prop delete == | |||
By the standards of [[Tardis:Even good categories can be removed]] and [[Tardis:Don't over-categorise]], this category should be deleted. Yes, it contains information that would be interesting to some people (as any possible category would), but it's not really that relevant to the wiki as a whole. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:30, June 5, 2018 (UTC) | |||
:Well, as the creator of the category, I vote to keep it as stories that are released posthumously are very rare in terms of the overall franchise and therefore notable in their own right.[[User:MystExplorer|MystExplorer]] [[User talk:MystExplorer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:32, June 5, 2018 (UTC) | |||
::Regarding the deletion proposal, see the above topic where a user had to ask for a definition of who/what constitutes a posthumous release. And just how far do we take the "crew" for this? Does every single crew member count? If not, then that automatically requires this category to be deleted. And given how we don't allow posting of birth/death dates without sources, we would require citation of death for every person whose "posthumous release" falls in this category. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:53, September 24, 2018 (UTC) | |||
::: I have now renovated [[List of posthumous releases]] to be a list which includes sources for all of the death dates. With this in mind, I would not be opposed to the deletion of this category. --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:59, July 9, 2020 (UTC) | |||
:::: Another reason to delete (although I think the existence of the list page is reason enough) is a possible violation of [[Tardis:Category naming conventions]] in that many articles in the category conflate "releases" with "stories". --[[User:Borisashton|Borisashton]] [[User talk:Borisashton|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:15, November 11, 2020 (UTC) | |||
:::::So will the category be deleted or not? I think it's time for a consensus.[[User:MystExplorer|MystExplorer]] [[User talk:MystExplorer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:22, 17 December 2020 (UTC) | |||
: Yeah, doing it now. There's been no real counterargument raised against the several good reasons why this category is unviable, even from you, who rooted for the category's retention; and [[User:Borisashton]] has ensured that this information will still be available on the Wiki, just not as a category. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:05, 28 April 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Remove deletion tag? == | |||
Since no action has been taken, I assume it's safe to remove the deletion tag from this category? [[User:MystExplorer|MystExplorer]] [[User talk:MystExplorer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:51, October 5, 2019 (UTC) |
Latest revision as of 17:05, 28 April 2021
Archive footage[[edit source]]
Presumably this doesn't include archival appearances? For example categorising The Day of the Doctor for Hartnell, Troughton, and Pertwee. --Borisashton ☎ 20:23, June 5, 2018 (UTC)
- No, archival appearances don't count.MystExplorer ☎ 20:26, June 5, 2018 (UTC)
- Cool, just checking. --Borisashton ☎ 20:27, June 5, 2018 (UTC)
- No problem! And thanks for helping to fill out the category.MystExplorer ☎ 20:28, June 5, 2018 (UTC)
- Cool, just checking. --Borisashton ☎ 20:27, June 5, 2018 (UTC)
- No, archival appearances don't count.MystExplorer ☎ 20:26, June 5, 2018 (UTC)
Prop delete[[edit source]]
By the standards of Tardis:Even good categories can be removed and Tardis:Don't over-categorise, this category should be deleted. Yes, it contains information that would be interesting to some people (as any possible category would), but it's not really that relevant to the wiki as a whole. Shambala108 ☎ 22:30, June 5, 2018 (UTC)
- Well, as the creator of the category, I vote to keep it as stories that are released posthumously are very rare in terms of the overall franchise and therefore notable in their own right.MystExplorer ☎ 22:32, June 5, 2018 (UTC)
- Regarding the deletion proposal, see the above topic where a user had to ask for a definition of who/what constitutes a posthumous release. And just how far do we take the "crew" for this? Does every single crew member count? If not, then that automatically requires this category to be deleted. And given how we don't allow posting of birth/death dates without sources, we would require citation of death for every person whose "posthumous release" falls in this category. Shambala108 ☎ 02:53, September 24, 2018 (UTC)
- I have now renovated List of posthumous releases to be a list which includes sources for all of the death dates. With this in mind, I would not be opposed to the deletion of this category. --Borisashton ☎ 21:59, July 9, 2020 (UTC)
- Another reason to delete (although I think the existence of the list page is reason enough) is a possible violation of Tardis:Category naming conventions in that many articles in the category conflate "releases" with "stories". --Borisashton ☎ 21:15, November 11, 2020 (UTC)
- So will the category be deleted or not? I think it's time for a consensus.MystExplorer ☎ 23:22, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
- Another reason to delete (although I think the existence of the list page is reason enough) is a possible violation of Tardis:Category naming conventions in that many articles in the category conflate "releases" with "stories". --Borisashton ☎ 21:15, November 11, 2020 (UTC)
- I have now renovated List of posthumous releases to be a list which includes sources for all of the death dates. With this in mind, I would not be opposed to the deletion of this category. --Borisashton ☎ 21:59, July 9, 2020 (UTC)
- Regarding the deletion proposal, see the above topic where a user had to ask for a definition of who/what constitutes a posthumous release. And just how far do we take the "crew" for this? Does every single crew member count? If not, then that automatically requires this category to be deleted. And given how we don't allow posting of birth/death dates without sources, we would require citation of death for every person whose "posthumous release" falls in this category. Shambala108 ☎ 02:53, September 24, 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, doing it now. There's been no real counterargument raised against the several good reasons why this category is unviable, even from you, who rooted for the category's retention; and User:Borisashton has ensured that this information will still be available on the Wiki, just not as a category. Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 17:05, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
Remove deletion tag?[[edit source]]
Since no action has been taken, I assume it's safe to remove the deletion tag from this category? MystExplorer ☎ 14:51, October 5, 2019 (UTC)