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: Move not so fast, my friend! There is much we have yet to establish. For one thing, [[T:VS|authorial intent counts for diddly-squat]] in these matters. For another, this authorial intent makes Andred and Leela but [[the Other's father]] and [[the Other's mother]]; the identities of the people who reared the Doctor ''after'' his "reincarnation" remains another matter entirely, and there do [[Ulysses]] and [[the Doctor's mother]] come in. | : Move not so fast, my friend! There is much we have yet to establish. For one thing, [[T:VS|authorial intent counts for diddly-squat]] in these matters. For another, this authorial intent makes Andred and Leela but [[the Other's father]] and [[the Other's mother]]; the identities of the people who reared the Doctor ''after'' his "reincarnation" remains another matter entirely, and there do [[Ulysses]] and [[the Doctor's mother]] come in. | ||
: It seems, furthermore, entirely wrongheaded to want to move the reference in ''[[Doctor Who (TV story)|Doctor Who]]'' out of this page when the Parkin/Orman conception of Ulysses largely grew ''out'' of the scenes — or, if you want to look at it another way, that those scenes grew out of the same Leekley sources as the Parkin/Orman Ulysses. I do not see why all non-contradictory information known about "the Doctor's father" should not linger at [[Ulysses]]. We have never segregated accounts based on "who wrote them", as opposed to what is materially in the text, and that would in my opinion be a monstrously bad precedent to set. | : It seems, furthermore, entirely wrongheaded to want to move the reference in ''[[Doctor Who (TV story)|Doctor Who]]'' out of this page when the Parkin/Orman conception of Ulysses largely grew ''out'' of the scenes — or, if you want to look at it another way, that those scenes grew out of the same Leekley sources as the Parkin/Orman Ulysses. I do not see why all non-contradictory information known about "the Doctor's father" should not linger at [[Ulysses]]. We have never segregated accounts based on "who wrote them", as opposed to what is materially in the text, and that would in my opinion be a monstrously bad precedent to set. Instead I point to your own work on the [[Time Lord messenger (Genesis of the Daleks)]] as the better precedent: the events neutrally attributed to "the guy in ''Genesis''", like ''[[The Slyther of Shoreditch (short story)|The Slyther of Shoreditch]]'', should rightly be construed to apply to ''all'' his potential identities, and the information summarised on each of [[Ferain]], [[Valyes]] and so on. It should not matter if we learn that [[Mike Tucker]] was ''thinking'' of Ferain over Valyes or over [[Valentine (Death Comes to Time)|Valentine]]: on paper the information seems applicable to several of the potential candidates, and should therefore be reflected on each of their pages without prejudice. | ||
: We should probably give some thought to resplitting [[The Doctor's father]] for the future, but on current information I don't see that anything has changed since the merge was agreed. And either way, your proposed ''way'' to split, while reasonable in the abstract, does ''not'' match the Wiki's philosophies in some key respects. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:58, 17 May 2021 (UTC) | : We should probably give some thought to resplitting [[The Doctor's father]] for the future, but on current information I don't see that anything has changed since the merge was agreed. And either way, your proposed ''way'' to split, while reasonable in the abstract, does ''not'' match the Wiki's philosophies in some key respects. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:58, 17 May 2021 (UTC) | ||