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 Again, this attempt to divine a narrative is just one big bag of guesswork. As for authorial intent, I will once again reiterate that the first sentence of the description is
 : We are very excited to announce that Doctor Who will be coming to Minecraft officially!
-I think it's fairly clear that ''prima facie'' the story should be regarded as invalid and perhaps when the forums come back up we can discuss it then, adding it to [[User:Najawin/Sandbox 5| The List]] or something until then.
+I think it's fairly clear that ''prima facie'' the story should be regarded as invalid and perhaps when the forums come back up we can discuss it then, adding it to [[User:Najawin/Sandbox 5| The List]] or something until then. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:07, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
+: The statement in the description stating that ''[[Doctor Who]]'' would be coming to ''[[Minecraft (video game)|Minecraft]]'' is the kind of thing any announcement video is likely to include; similarly, part of ''[[Supergirl Meets E.T. (webcast)|Supergirl Meets E.T.]]''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s description reads:
+:: ''Find out which two heroes will be joining the fight against evil-doers, criminals, and just bad dudes in the LEGO® DIMENSIONS™ Multiverse this September!
+Starting in September 2016, LEGO DIMENSIONS Starter Packs for the Sony PlayStation® 4 will include an exclusive, bonus DC Comics Supergirl LEGO minifigure for a limited time!''
+: While the wording's certainly ''different'', it's similar in that it's announcing upcoming content for a [[crossover]] video game. [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:12, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
+::I think you're rather obscuring the issue here my friend, [[Supergirl Meets E.T. (webcast)]]'s synopsis ''begins'' with
+:::Two beings from space. Both adopted into normal Earthling families. Both have conquered the power of flight. Both masters of disguise. Only one is like, really obsessed with phones.
+::It's only at the ''end'' that it switches to this announcement style description. Not only does the BBC description begin with
+:::We are very excited to announce that Doctor Who will be coming to Minecraft officially!
+::''The entire description is one about the pack rather than the supposed narrative you've constructed regarding the video.'' So, sure, it's similar in that there is '''a''' description in the description box related to upcoming video game content, but it's different in that in one of them there's more than that, and in the other that's all there is.
+::Of course, this is just a challenge to it failing rule 4, which is somewhat moot because it also fails rule 1. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:53, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
+::: In terms of rule 1, this is objectively ''a'' story. Perhaps not the most well-written one, but it has a followable narrative, at least to me. [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:41, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
+::::I'm not sure you know what the word "objectively" means. At best this is ''intersubjectively'' a story, since stories can't exist without agents to tell/create them. But let's just grant for sake of argument that there's a narrative you and you alone can decipher. That does us no good, the wiki is governed through consensus. So it's incumbent on you to argue for this narrative. But you're not adequately doing so. I note that I don't think this is your fault, I simply don't think such a thing is possible, the problems with the Master and Ice Warrior sections, in particular, are far too large to resolve. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:59, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
+::::: Not sure if you even watched it at this point... [[User:Cookieboy 2005|Cookieboy 2005]] [[User talk:Cookieboy 2005|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:39, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
+[[T:FAITH]]. And given that I've talked about the video in ''more detail than you have'' (see, again, the Master section), this is an absurd comment. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:56, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
+:I'm just going to note here that on [[Talk:You Are The Absurd Hero (short story)|You Are The Absurd Hero]] Scrooge said that the intent behind his above statement was that the story should be seen as prima facie invalid. I haven't gotten around to making the relevant edits until now, since I've forgotten how we categorize non-DWU things and I didn't want to look it up. But I'm doing it now. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:19, 2 October 2022 (UTC)