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==Non-canonical means real world perspective, doesn't it?==
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Can't quite understand why this article is in past tense, and seems to concentrate on the ''character'' of Gareth Jenkins, rather than the dude himself.  ''A Fix with Sontarans'' isn't a valid resource according to MOS, is it?  IF not, then this article should be wholly rewritten from the real world perspective.  '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]'''  [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 04:41, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Can't quite understand why this article is in past tense, and seems to concentrate on the ''character'' of Gareth Jenkins, rather than the dude himself.  ''A Fix with Sontarans'' isn't a valid resource according to MOS, is it?  IF not, then this article should be wholly rewritten from the real world perspective.  '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]'''  [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 04:41, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
:It's worse than you think - there are actually ''two'' pages for the character: this one and [[Gareth Jenkins (A Fix with Sontarans)]]. These two should be merged but I'm uncertain how it should be done. [[User:Doug86|Doug86]] 05:01, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
::I'd say move the other page here. Any real life person who ends up part of a fictional narrative without being very important behind the scenes should follow the lead of articles like [[Richard Dawkins]].--[[User:Nyktimos|Nyktimos]] 05:25, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
== Article rewrite ==
Rewrote article to be primarily a real world article.  Stuff about the "character" of Gareth Jenkins roped off on its own at the bottom and written in a very present tense-y, matter-of-fact, real world kinda way.  Took down {{tl|notdwu}} because the focus of the article is now on the real person.  Removed all the DWU categories; totally wrong for this guy to be in [[:category:20th century individuals]], since that category is solely for DWU characters.  Gareth Jenkins isn't a part of the DWU at all, and can't be, if you've even taken a cursory look at the story in question.  For those too young to have seen ''Fix'', it occupies almost exactly the same narrative space as the [[Tonight's the Night]] sketch, except that the fourth wall is actually in ''better'' shape with the Barrowman thing. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}02:02: Sun&nbsp;13 Nov 2011&nbsp;</span>
Question: was the Gareth in the TV Movie (Paul McGann) the same Gareth? Just wondered. [[User:Hotshot70|Hotshot70]] [[User talk:Hotshot70|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:39, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
: Unlikely. The [[Gareth (Doctor Who)|Gareth]] in the TV movie saves the world in 2009 due to seismology breakthroughs, whereas this non-canonical Gareth saves the world in 2001 from a Sontaran invasion. The TV movie writers probably did not have young Jenkins in mind when they wrote the character in the TV movie. Only if they kept the details correct, or were even more vague on where the Eighth Doctor recognized Gareth from (e.g. an easter egg to fans), would it be a likely homage. And then, of course, we woud need and have official sources confirming that.--[[User:Tim Thomason|Tim Thomason]] [[User talk:Tim Thomason|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:06, November 19, 2013 (UTC)
== Watching on telly ==
Gareth mentions that he watched it on television when the Doctor asked him how he could operate the TARDIS like that. This article says it breaks out from the storyline, but my guess is that it could be the first of three references to the show inside the show (e.g. ''[[Remembrance of the Daleks (TV story)|Remembrance of the Daleks]]'' and ''[[In the Forest of the Night (TV story)|In the Forest of the Night]]''). --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:24, November 1, 2014 (UTC)

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Non-canonical means real world perspective, doesn't it?[[edit source]]

Can't quite understand why this article is in past tense, and seems to concentrate on the character of Gareth Jenkins, rather than the dude himself. A Fix with Sontarans isn't a valid resource according to MOS, is it? IF not, then this article should be wholly rewritten from the real world perspective. CzechOut | 04:41, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

It's worse than you think - there are actually two pages for the character: this one and Gareth Jenkins (A Fix with Sontarans). These two should be merged but I'm uncertain how it should be done. Doug86 05:01, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
I'd say move the other page here. Any real life person who ends up part of a fictional narrative without being very important behind the scenes should follow the lead of articles like Richard Dawkins.--Nyktimos 05:25, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Article rewrite[[edit source]]

Rewrote article to be primarily a real world article. Stuff about the "character" of Gareth Jenkins roped off on its own at the bottom and written in a very present tense-y, matter-of-fact, real world kinda way. Took down {{notdwu}} because the focus of the article is now on the real person. Removed all the DWU categories; totally wrong for this guy to be in category:20th century individuals, since that category is solely for DWU characters. Gareth Jenkins isn't a part of the DWU at all, and can't be, if you've even taken a cursory look at the story in question. For those too young to have seen Fix, it occupies almost exactly the same narrative space as the Tonight's the Night sketch, except that the fourth wall is actually in better shape with the Barrowman thing.
czechout<staff />   02:02: Sun 13 Nov 2011 

Question: was the Gareth in the TV Movie (Paul McGann) the same Gareth? Just wondered. Hotshot70 10:39, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

Unlikely. The Gareth in the TV movie saves the world in 2009 due to seismology breakthroughs, whereas this non-canonical Gareth saves the world in 2001 from a Sontaran invasion. The TV movie writers probably did not have young Jenkins in mind when they wrote the character in the TV movie. Only if they kept the details correct, or were even more vague on where the Eighth Doctor recognized Gareth from (e.g. an easter egg to fans), would it be a likely homage. And then, of course, we woud need and have official sources confirming that.--Tim Thomason 19:06, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

Watching on telly[[edit source]]

Gareth mentions that he watched it on television when the Doctor asked him how he could operate the TARDIS like that. This article says it breaks out from the storyline, but my guess is that it could be the first of three references to the show inside the show (e.g. Remembrance of the Daleks and In the Forest of the Night). --DCLM 15:24, November 1, 2014 (UTC)