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::::: I apologize. Reading is not my forte, nor is writing as those of you who have read my articles will know. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]][[User Talk:OttselSpy25|🤙☎️]] 21:25, 24 April 2023 (UTC) | ::::: I apologize. Reading is not my forte, nor is writing as those of you who have read my articles will know. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]][[User Talk:OttselSpy25|🤙☎️]] 21:25, 24 April 2023 (UTC) | ||
As best I understand it, not being present for the original thread, so only seeing the subsequent ones (and recalling those from memory and referencing user talk pages from around the time) a crucial element of [[User:Amorkuz]]'s objections was that merely releasing a story for free on the personal website of the individual who wrote the story did not constitute an official release. (See [[User talk:Revanvolatrelundar#Re:]]) Now, some of the situation has changed since the initial objection was made, but at least one of the crossovers still is published solely on a personal website, I believe. (albeit, not the personal website of the author of the story I'm thinking of) Do we buy this? I dunno. We've discussed similar issues in relation to the fan gallery issue with Doctor Who: Lockdown. I'm loathe to link to the discussion for other reasons. But there was no clear resolution to that discussion, we never decided whether [[A Better World]] should have a page here. | As best I understand it, not being present for the original thread, so only seeing the subsequent ones (and recalling those from memory and referencing user talk pages from around the time) a crucial element of [[User:Amorkuz]]'s objections was that merely releasing a story for free on the personal website of the individual who wrote the story did not constitute an official release. (See [[User talk:Revanvolatrelundar#Re:]]) Now, some of the situation has changed since the initial objection was made, but at least one of the crossovers still is published solely on a personal website, I believe. (albeit, not the personal website of the author of the story I'm thinking of) Do we buy this? I dunno. We've discussed similar issues in relation to the fan gallery issue with Doctor Who: Lockdown. I'm loathe to link to the discussion for other reasons. But there was no clear resolution to that discussion, we never decided whether ''[[A Better World (short story)|A Better World]]'' should have a page here. | ||
I think I remember that Amorkuz also wasn't thrilled with Arcbeatle even being considered a "real" publisher, since their books didn't have ISBNs, just ASINs, which is an issue we haven't ''really'' resolved on this wiki (see [[Talk:The Concept of War (novel)]] for a glance in its direction). I support validity here, make no mistake. But I do think there's some merit to the opposing view. And I think it's unlikely to be mentioned without me stating it. (Hopefully I don't have to defend it.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:58, 24 April 2023 (UTC) | I think I remember that Amorkuz also wasn't thrilled with Arcbeatle even being considered a "real" publisher, since their books didn't have ISBNs, just ASINs, which is an issue we haven't ''really'' resolved on this wiki (see [[Talk:The Concept of War (novel)]] for a glance in its direction). I support validity here, make no mistake. But I do think there's some merit to the opposing view. And I think it's unlikely to be mentioned without me stating it. (Hopefully I don't have to defend it.) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:58, 24 April 2023 (UTC) | ||
:I '''support '''Validity. [[User:Time God Eon|Time God Eon]] [[User talk:Time God Eon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:05, 24 April 2023 (UTC) | :I '''support '''Validity. [[User:Time God Eon|Time God Eon]] [[User talk:Time God Eon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:05, 24 April 2023 (UTC) | ||
:: @[[User:Najawin|Najawin]]: It looks like we may (''may'') have the actual archives to hand before this thread's span is over, but until then, going off of my recollections — I ''believe'' it was eventually shown that in fact, despite the URL, jameswylder.com is ''not'' a "personal" website, but in fact a business website of Wylder's company [[Arcbeatle Press]]. hence, while the procedural issue was never quite resolved, this is in part because it proved to be subtly irrelevant to the ''Dawns'' case. | |||
:: (Though I'll also restate something I said multiple times in the old threads, which is that this is all a big [[T:BOUND]] thing. Perhaps there could be merit in a thread discussing these issues, but ''as it stands'' there would be no policy objections to a story released on a personal website. Indeed I believe we cover [[Prelude to Against Nature (short story)|some things in that category]] currently.) [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 22:12, 24 April 2023 (UTC) |