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:Not really. They were brought there with the spores in the books. So, they're native to the Planet of the Book-Maker or something, and they're an introduced species on [[The Library]]. -<[[User:Azes13|Azes13]] 15:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
:Not really. They were brought there with the spores in the books. So, they're native to the Planet of the Book-Maker or something, and they're an introduced species on [[The Library]]. -<[[User:Azes13|Azes13]] 15:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


::I think the show is actually a little unclear on the subject. The Vashta Nerada declare the Library as their home/homeworld, and the Doctor concludes that they have been living in the books, which were pulped from the trees the Vashta Nerada came from.
::I think the show is actually a little unclear on the subject. The Vashta Nerada declare the Library as their home/homeworld, and the Doctor concludes that they have been living in the books, which were pulped from the trees the Vashta Nerada came from.


::After that, it is silent on the subject. But here's what tips it for me: The Library is covered in metallic buildings, made out of inorganic materials. The only non-living organic things we saw were the books, and the only living plants that are likely to be found in any numbers on the Library are probably decorative. All of this is to say, there don't seem to be any trees left on the world, meaning they were cut down. What would they have been used for? Almost certainly the books. Why import everything needed to build the Library while simultaneously exporting those same materials when they occur naturally on the planet?--[[User:TheOmnius|TheOmnius]] 23:46, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
::After that, it is silent on the subject. But here's what tips it for me: The Library is covered in metallic buildings, made out of inorganic materials. The only non-living organic things we saw were the books, and the only living plants that are likely to be found in any numbers on the Library are probably decorative. All of this is to say, there don't seem to be any trees left on the world, meaning they were cut down. What would they have been used for? Almost certainly the books. Why import everything needed to build the Library while simultaneously exporting those same materials when they occur naturally on the planet?--[[User:TheOmnius|TheOmnius]] 23:46, 8 February 2009 (UTC)


:::It actually just occurred to me that with the construction date of the Library being in the 50th Century, and the Vashta Nerada's presence on modern Earth, my logic suffers a setback, as the import/export is no longer simultaneous.--[[User:TheOmnius|TheOmnius]] 23:52, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
:::It actually just occurred to me that with the construction date of the Library being in the 50th Century, and the Vashta Nerada's presence on modern Earth, my logic suffers a setback, as the import/export is no longer simultaneous.--[[User:TheOmnius|TheOmnius]] 23:52, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Didn't they say that the core of the planet was the computer's memory core? Since we're seen the core, and that everything around it is the computer, wouldn't that imply that the planet was artificially created?


== Reality Bomb ==
== Reality Bomb ==

Revision as of 03:59, 17 May 2010

Name origin

Just a guess but could this be derived from the hindu for shadow, asara vastu

http://tardis.wikia.com/index.php?title=Talk:Vashta_Nerada&action=edit&section=1== size ==

--- The word "Vashta" means alive or life in Parsi.

Size

if by sealing the spacesuit the doctor meant sealing it as if it was in space (and why wouldnt he?) and he vashta nerada still got in then that would meen that a single vashta nerada is smaller than an air molecule81.108.233.59 15:51, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Judging by Evangelista's spacesuit after her death, it's more likely that the Vashta Nerada would just tear through even a sealed suit. ~ Ghelæ -talk-contribs 16:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Well, the Doctor even says that you can see them sometimes...they are the dust particles in the light--71.223.67.40 04:44, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Shadows

In Season 2 ep 10, somebody's mother is killed by a "living shadow," according to the Doctor. Could this be a Vashta Nerada reference?

Although i don't remember that scene of the top of my head it may be a reference although it may be a reference to another being Dark Lord Xander 08:10, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

The scene you're thinking of is from Love & Monsters, didn't the Doctor mention the Howling Halls or something with regards to that instance? --Tangerineduel 12:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
To be honest i cannot remember either lines (oh well it's a good excuse to crack out the dvds :) ) Dark Lord Xander 13:48, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Well checking out the Love and Monsters page and following the links through the living shadow was called and Elemental Shade (it had escaped the Howling Halls. --Tangerineduel 14:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
And on the eternal shade's page there was speculation that the two were linked but nothing to conferm it Dark Lord Xander 15:27, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

I started the page but clalled it shadow ( love and monsters). I bilieve the two are similar . One lives in darkness the other doesnt perhaps ?Quark16 15:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

yes i belive that they are very simillar perhapse the Vashta Nerada is an expantion of the idea first formed in love and monsters ? Dark Lord Xander 00:23, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

Home Planet

This article says that the Vashta Nerada homeworld is unknown, but in Forest of the Dead they clearly state that the Library planet is their home.

Not really. They were brought there with the spores in the books. So, they're native to the Planet of the Book-Maker or something, and they're an introduced species on The Library. -<Azes13 15:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
I think the show is actually a little unclear on the subject. The Vashta Nerada declare the Library as their home/homeworld, and the Doctor concludes that they have been living in the books, which were pulped from the trees the Vashta Nerada came from.
After that, it is silent on the subject. But here's what tips it for me: The Library is covered in metallic buildings, made out of inorganic materials. The only non-living organic things we saw were the books, and the only living plants that are likely to be found in any numbers on the Library are probably decorative. All of this is to say, there don't seem to be any trees left on the world, meaning they were cut down. What would they have been used for? Almost certainly the books. Why import everything needed to build the Library while simultaneously exporting those same materials when they occur naturally on the planet?--TheOmnius 23:46, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
It actually just occurred to me that with the construction date of the Library being in the 50th Century, and the Vashta Nerada's presence on modern Earth, my logic suffers a setback, as the import/export is no longer simultaneous.--TheOmnius 23:52, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Didn't they say that the core of the planet was the computer's memory core? Since we're seen the core, and that everything around it is the computer, wouldn't that imply that the planet was artificially created?

Reality Bomb

There is something in this article that metions that they relised they needed the Doctor alive to stop the reality bomb, that doesnt sound right or have I missed something. Is there any source for this, I admit I have seen the episodes they featured in for a long time. So could someone check Bigshowbower 07:24, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

No, it doesn't sound right. I'm just going to remove it. -<Azes13 14:02, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
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