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At this point the three characters seem far ''more'' distinct than the various Doctors. The Eleventh Doctor remembers when he was the Tenth Doctor, and the Ninth and the Eighth and so forth. (Well, given how much trouble the Eighth had holding on to his memories, perhaps not so much the Eighth. But you know what I mean.) His memory and continuity of existence (on the principle of the [[wikipedia:Ship of Theseus|Ship of Theseus]], ''aka'' Trigger's Broom) show that he is "the same man".
At this point the three characters seem far ''more'' distinct than the various Doctors. The Eleventh Doctor remembers when he was the Tenth Doctor, and the Ninth and the Eighth and so forth. (Well, given how much trouble the Eighth had holding on to his memories, perhaps not so much the Eighth. But you know what I mean.) His memory and continuity of existence (on the principle of the [[wikipedia:Ship of Theseus|Ship of Theseus]], ''aka'' Trigger's Broom) show that he is "the same man".


But apart from the fact that they're all played by Jenna-Louise Coleman, and Doctor's assertion that Dalek Oswin and Victorian Clara are "the same woman", and a handful of lines about soufflés and running, we don't have any understanding of how the Claras can be the same woman. In fact, the explanation (which I'm sure we'll get in the rest of the season) will have to overcome the frankly massive objection that Victorian Clara and Dalek Oswin are both ''dead''. Now, sure there will be some wibbly-wobbly explanation that may even make sense. But we don't know what it is yet. We don't know ''how'' the characters are connected, just that they are, somehow. Until we've got that connective tissue, I think it makes sense to keep the articles separate.
But apart from the fact that they're all played by Jenna-Louise Coleman, and Doctor's assertion that Dalek Oswin and Victorian Clara are "the same woman", and a handful of lines about soufflés and running, we don't have any understanding of how the Claras can be the same woman. In fact, the explanation (which I'm sure we'll get in the rest of the season) will have to overcome the frankly massive objection that Victorian Clara and Dalek Oswin are both ''dead''. Now, sure there will be some wibbly-wobbly explanation that may even make sense. But we don't know what it is yet. We don't know ''how'' the characters are connected, just that they are, somehow. Until we've got that connective tissue, I think it makes sense to keep the articles separate.
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At this point the three characters seem far more distinct than the various Doctors. The Eleventh Doctor remembers when he was the Tenth Doctor, and the Ninth and the Eighth and so forth. (Well, given how much trouble the Eighth had holding on to his memories, perhaps not so much the Eighth. But you know what I mean.) His memory and continuity of existence (on the principle of the Ship of Theseus, aka Trigger's Broom) show that he is "the same man".

But apart from the fact that they're all played by Jenna-Louise Coleman, and Doctor's assertion that Dalek Oswin and Victorian Clara are "the same woman", and a handful of lines about soufflés and running, we don't have any understanding of how the Claras can be the same woman. In fact, the explanation (which I'm sure we'll get in the rest of the season) will have to overcome the frankly massive objection that Victorian Clara and Dalek Oswin are both dead. Now, sure there will be some wibbly-wobbly explanation that may even make sense. But we don't know what it is yet. We don't know how the characters are connected, just that they are, somehow. Until we've got that connective tissue, I think it makes sense to keep the articles separate.