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Again, we '''must''' default to real-world logic.  Fantastic solutions can only apply when the show presents them in-universe.
Again, we '''must''' default to real-world logic.  Fantastic solutions can only apply when the show presents them in-universe.


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<small><nowiki>*</nowiki>"It happened in a dream" twice, resurrected from Amy's memory twice, igniting a paradox, etc. -- all shown in-universe, and even still we have an Auton Rory page separate from [[Rory Williams]].</small>
<small><nowiki>*</nowiki>"It happened in a dream" twice, resurrected from Amy's memory twice, igniting a paradox, etc. -- all shown in-universe, and even still we have an Auton Rory page separate from [[Rory Williams]].</small>
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Again, we must default to real-world logic. Fantastic solutions can only apply when the show presents them in-universe.

  • Fact: She died twice
  • Fact: The Doctor says she's the same woman
  • Fact: All the similarities I mentioned above
  • "She" didn't die twice. Oswin Oswald died. And Clara Oswin Oswald died.
  • "The Doctor says" is not a valid argument. The Doctor has been wrong before, and we cannot take his word as truth, when he clearly does not himself understand what is going on.
  • Similarities do not define identicality.

The only clear fact we have is that two characters died.

Until the show presents us with an explanation as to how this person can die multiple times (see Rory*), we must assume that they cannot cheat death. Any assumptions otherwise are speculation.

*"It happened in a dream" twice, resurrected from Amy's memory twice, igniting a paradox, etc. -- all shown in-universe, and even still we have an Auton Rory page separate from Rory Williams.