Forum:Deleted Scenes and Rule 4 By Proxy: Difference between revisions

:I've changed my opinion quite a lot now. Some deleted scenes arguably fail rule ''1'', as they might not be ''complete'' works of fiction, but I don't feel adept at defining the barriers there, and also think it's probably a case-by-case basis. I agree with the general idea in this thread that deleted scenes should not be considered to fail rule 3, as by us seeing them they have been released. I think that all deleted scenes should fail rule 4 by default (as they were discarded), but that authorial intend and ''maybe''  proxy can countermand this. The "Tardis coral" scene in [[Journey's End (TV story)|Journey's End]] is the prime, and quite probably only, example of a deleted scene outright passing rule 4, as RTD said he still considers it to "count" (he may even have used the word "canon", I'm not sure) and that it was only the length of the scene that cut it. So if deleted scenes are ruled by the closing post as passing rule 1, then I believe this scene should pass as valid. However, the ''Remembrance of the Daleks'' scene I am less comfortable about - and '''The Pilot Episode '' I am strongly against - as it was only referenced. I say this as an avid supporter of r4bp, '''i do not think that deleted scenes should be validable by r4bp'''. However, if an admin decides that making exceptions for r4bp isn't good, I can accept the validity of ''Remembrance of the Daleks'', but I do not think that ''Unnatural History'' was trying to bring ''The Pilot Episode ''' into continuity.  

Finally, I ''do'' think that ''P.S.'' should be valid, however I do not think that this is the thread for it, as I do not think it is a deleted scene. However I have not watched it, so my opinion there is of low worth. [[User:Cousin Ettolrhc|Cousin Ettolrahc]] [[User talk:Cousin Ettolrhc|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:36, 7 May 2023 (UTC)