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|job = Spy | |job = Spy | ||
|firstNOCOV = w:c:disney:Steamboat Willie{{!}}Disney Cartoons: Steamboat Willie | |firstNOCOV = w:c:disney:Steamboat Willie{{!}}Disney Cartoons: Steamboat Willie | ||
|first = Disney Time | |first = Disney Time (TV story) | ||
|appearances = [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Incredible Doctor Who History Tour (No. 7.) (comic story)|The Incredible Doctor Who History Tour (No. 7.)]]'' | |appearances = [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Incredible Doctor Who History Tour (No. 7.) (comic story)|The Incredible Doctor Who History Tour (No. 7.)]]'' | ||
|main actor = | |main actor = | ||
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|name = Cyberon | |name = Cyberon | ||
|image = Cyberon (Cyberon is Back!!).jpg | |image = Cyberon (Cyberon is Back!!).jpg | ||
|firstNOCOV = w:c:BBV:Cyber-Hunt (audio story){{!}}BBV: Cyber-Hunt | |firstNOCOV = w:c:BBV:Cyber-Hunt (audio story){{!}}BBV: Cyber-Hunt | ||
|first = | |first = Do You Have a Licence to Save this Planet? (home video) | ||
|appearances = [[Cyberons - list of appearances|'''''see list''''']] | ||appearances = [[Cyberons - list of appearances|'''''see list''''']] | ||
}}For many many years, infoboxes on TARDIS wiki have had the "first=" variable. Historically, this has been used to denote the first ''valid source'' where this character appears. Despite sounding simple, caused a lot of headaches. For instance, [[Zog (The Ultimate Adventure)|Zog]] from the stage play ''[[The Ultimate Adventure (stage play)|Doctor Who: The Ultimate Adventure]]'' once listed a short trips story as his premiere story, despite this being an out-of-universe variable. | }}For many many years, infoboxes on TARDIS wiki have had the "first=" variable. Historically, this has been used to denote the first ''valid source'' where this character appears. Despite sounding simple, caused a lot of headaches. For instance, [[Zog (The Ultimate Adventure)|Zog]] from the stage play ''[[The Ultimate Adventure (stage play)|Doctor Who: The Ultimate Adventure]]'' once listed a short trips story as his premiere story, despite this being an out-of-universe variable. | ||
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I also don't think this should apply to ''Doctor Who'' concepts which have been retconned to being related to other franchises. Like, I know the novels in the 90s were all excited about constantly retconning that, uh, [[Kandyman]] is [[Cthulhu]] or whatever. But I would still list ''[[The Abominable Snowmen (TV story)|The Abominable Snowmen]]'' as the first appearance of the [[Great Intelligence]]. I would not list ''[[w:c:Lovecraft:The Case of Charles Dexter Ward]]''. But if the page for [[Yog-Sothoth]] had an infobox, sure you could list it there. | I also don't think this should apply to ''Doctor Who'' concepts which have been retconned to being related to other franchises. Like, I know the novels in the 90s were all excited about constantly retconning that, uh, [[Kandyman]] is [[Cthulhu]] or whatever. But I would still list ''[[The Abominable Snowmen (TV story)|The Abominable Snowmen]]'' as the first appearance of the [[Great Intelligence]]. I would not list ''[[w:c:Lovecraft:The Case of Charles Dexter Ward]]''. But if the page for [[Yog-Sothoth]] had an infobox, sure you could list it there. | ||
A very similar piece of precedent is that we don't list [[TV]]: ''[[The Brain of Morbius (TV story)|The Brain of Morbius]]'' as the first appearance of [[Iris Wildthyme]]. | |||
However, I think we should also consider the obvious topic of ''Doctor Who'' Universe characters and concepts which originated in things meant to be set in the ''Doctor Who Universe'' which we otherwise don't cover. An example might be [[Johnny Chess]], who was introduced in a short story seen in the ''[[Perfect Timing]]'' Charity Anthologies. There are obviously many other examples of things like this. | However, I think we should also consider the obvious topic of ''Doctor Who'' Universe characters and concepts which originated in things meant to be set in the ''Doctor Who Universe'' which we otherwise don't cover. An example might be [[Johnny Chess]], who was introduced in a short story seen in the ''[[Perfect Timing]]'' Charity Anthologies. There are obviously many other examples of things like this. | ||
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|affiliation = Panda | |affiliation = Panda | ||
|affiliation2 = UNIT United Kingdom{{!}}UNIT | |affiliation2 = UNIT United Kingdom{{!}}UNIT | ||
|firstoffsite = ''[https://magrsverse.miraheze.org/wiki/Marked_for_Life_(novel) Marked for Life]'' | |firstoffsite = ''[https://magrsverse.miraheze.org/wiki/Marked_for_Life_(novel) Phoenix Court: Marked for Life]'' | ||
|first = Old Flames (short story) | |first = Old Flames (short story) | ||
|appearances = [[Iris Wildthyme/Appearances|'''''see list''''']] | |appearances = [[Iris Wildthyme/Appearances|'''''see list''''']] | ||
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While our infoboxes will allow very easily for FANDOM wikis to be linked, off-site wikis are going to be a challenge to link in the infobox. So far, there are three non-FANDOM wikis I can think of that we would want to link for this: TFwiki, the Magrsverse, and Wikipedia. | While our infoboxes will allow very easily for FANDOM wikis to be linked, off-site wikis are going to be a challenge to link in the infobox. So far, there are three non-FANDOM wikis I can think of that we would want to link for this: TFwiki, the Magrsverse, and Wikipedia. | ||
TFwiki we'd need to cite for Death's Head (''[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Wanted:_Galvatron_%E2%80%94_Dead_or_Alive! Wanted: Galvatron — Dead or Alive!]''), Magrsverse wiki we'd want for a few things but mostly [[Iris Wildthyme]] (''[https://magrsverse.miraheze.org/wiki/Marked_for_Life_(novel) Marked for Life]'') and then Wikipedia for... I don't know, something where the first story isn't popular enough to have a wiki but does have a Wikipedia page. I don't have an example. Sue me. | TFwiki we'd need to cite for Death's Head, (''[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Wanted:_Galvatron_%E2%80%94_Dead_or_Alive! Wanted: Galvatron — Dead or Alive!]'') [[Unicron]], [[Galvatron]], and [[Cyclonus]], (''[https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Transformers:_The_Movie The Transformers: The Movie]'') Magrsverse wiki we'd want for a few things but mostly [[Iris Wildthyme]] (''[https://magrsverse.miraheze.org/wiki/Marked_for_Life_(novel) Marked for Life]'') and then Wikipedia for... I don't know, something where the first story isn't popular enough to have a wiki but does have a Wikipedia page. I don't have an example. Sue me. | ||
So basically, we may need to either make a functioning template that making off-FANDOM linking more realistic, or we need a second variable, something like: | So basically, we may need to either make a functioning template that making off-FANDOM linking more realistic, or we need a second variable, something like: |